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Could it be Gordon?

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(@megan_brown)
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Yes, and when Gordon sees the vortex it is the black lodge/convenience store version.  It tries to suck him up, but Albert holds him back.  When Andy sees the vortex it is the white lodge/fireman version.  That made me wonder about Gordon's connection to the black lodge.

 
Posted : 30/08/2017 7:41 pm
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Posted by: Chris Gorgon

While I agree we shouldn't discount anything, I'm not sure "who is the dreamer?" is a literal question to be answered within the story so much as something thoughtful for us to chew on.  

I have kicked that around in my mind so much it has gotten kind of twisted and off the path of normal(?) thought. Dreamer... most, automatically think dreams/visions acquired while sleeping or daydreaming or meditating. WHAT IF, the Dreamer refers to someone like Martin Luther King? or since electricity is so intrinsic, a Visionary like Tesla or Einstein? When I was younger, I had hopes and dreams of playing Pro Baseball and being a Beatle... 'you may sa-a-a-ay I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one' -chills- (apologies John Lennon)

 

 
Posted : 30/08/2017 8:09 pm
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Posted by: Megan Brown

Yes, and when Gordon sees the vortex it is the black lodge/convenience store version.  It tries to suck him up, but Albert holds him back.  When Andy sees the vortex it is the white lodge/fireman version.  That made me wonder about Gordon's connection to the black lodge.

I think that particular location in Buckhorn is a black lodge vortex.  It would have taken anyone who arrived at the spot to the black lodge.  This is similar to the coordinates provided by Maj. Briggs in the chair tube led to a vortex that goes to the white lodge.  I don't think it has anything to do with the person who goes to that location's goodness/evilness.  It's about the location. 

 
Posted : 30/08/2017 8:18 pm
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Anyone that thinks they do. . . Is full of shit ??

At this point all most of can do is say what is obvious, as in "he's dead"

 
Posted : 30/08/2017 8:18 pm
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Exactly!  Hell have a lot of ?s to answer for that Gordon couldn't get keep him from.

But the obvious part:  he's in a hurry! 

 
Posted : 30/08/2017 8:22 pm
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Exactly!  Hell have a lot of ?s to answer for that Gordon couldn't get keep him from.

But the obvious part:  he's in a hurry! 

 
Posted : 30/08/2017 8:22 pm
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Exactly!  Hell have a lot of ?s to answer for that Gordon couldn't get keep him from.

But the obvious part:  he's in a hurry! 

 
Posted : 30/08/2017 8:22 pm
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But surely Andy is sucked up into the white lodge vortex (vs Sheriff or Bobby, etc.) because of the nature of who he is -- pure, good.  Albert holds Cole back from being sucked up into the black lodge vortex.  Why is Cole the one to be pulled into it?  What does that say about his nature?

 
Posted : 30/08/2017 9:10 pm
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This is the Osho Tarot card for Mind:
http://mysticmix.com/osho-zen-tarot-card-week-mind/

Click to see the picture--it is the small one under the banner.

It implies that people who have a lot going on in their heads are more prone to blocking divine intuition than those who keep their head clear to receive it. Gordon tries to receive as much as he can, but he is a natural intellectual, as is Cooper, as is Hawk, as are the Trumans. Also, curiosity attracts the bad and the good both. Curious people have full minds.

Andy on the other hand has always been a bit slow in that area, making him a perfect receptacle for the White Lodge.  He isn't mentally deficient but he is a bit like Dougie with motor skills.  (I know that isn't really true because Cooper was apparently pretty conscious in the Dougie state. But Andy is more like what Dougie appeared to be.)

 

 
Posted : 30/08/2017 9:38 pm
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(@drew_girouard)
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I bet the note says, "I know."

 
Posted : 31/08/2017 8:08 am
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I think that's just a question of pacing. There's so much to be done in the next two hours, and putting them together for a reunion just won't push the story forward. Think they'll do it all in Twin Peaks.

 
Posted : 31/08/2017 8:56 am
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Referring also to the Is Gordon Cole really deaf thread, there's definitely more about him (and his hearing aid) than it seems. Before Dale wakes up, Gordon seems to be able to "hear" the beep of the machines in Dale's hospital room.

However I find it hard to believe that the man who told his colleagues "Fix your hearts" (re: Denise) will turn out to be a bad guy. And I frankly have had enough of tulpas.

 
Posted : 31/08/2017 10:30 am
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