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Observation: My Log is turning GOLD

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Posted by: Brandy Fisher
Posted by: Brian Hardin II

But then there is the line...

"My log is turning gold."

What else do we know that turns gold in this new season???  This leads to the question.. HOW DID SHE KNOW that when tulpas die (and we cannot deny that the log is a tulpa of her husband) that they turn to gold???

 

Good point but getting a little creepy.

And oh dear... a little Freudian too. Oh dear, now I’m thinking of the “woodsmen” in a whole new light. 

 
Posted : 10/07/2018 1:49 am
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Well, whatever it means, I’ll tell y’all something. My father has lost his fight with leukemia and will be passing on in the next few days. I’ve watched Margaret’s scene a number of times this past week. My father would never appreciate Lynch’s type of art, but since they’re the same age and both from out west (and both have seen “cowboys” as moral paragons) The Return—replete with 50s music, western imagery, and wise old men—reminded me of my father at many times. Though my pop (a physiological psychologist) loved The Elephant Man, he once told me he couldn’t understand why anyone would pay to watch the agonizingly painful Eraserhead; I think he kinda failed to grasp that that’s partly the film’s point. 

Back to the speech: Death is only a transition. Goodnight Margaret. I’m gonna watch this again. 

 
Posted : 10/07/2018 2:03 am
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Hi Jesse - Please accept my heartfelt condolences on your father's transition.  I think physiologically minded persons tap into a "slightly askew" perspective that's not completely different from Lynch's surrealism.  I hope you find Lynch (or anything, really) helpful as you adjust to this change in your world.

Elephant Man finale:    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbsaA7gAjqY

 
Posted : 10/07/2018 4:42 am
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Posted by: Functional_Dougie

Hi Jesse - Please accept my heartfelt condolences on your father's transition.  I think physiologically minded persons tap into a "slightly askew" perspective that's not completely different from Lynch's surrealism.  I hope you find Lynch (or anything, really) helpful as you adjust to this change in your world.

Elephant Man finale:    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbsaA7gAjqY

Thank you Functional Dougie. My father did pass on Tuesday night, sometime between when I fell asleep at 11 and when I awoke at midnight he waited for us all to fall asleep. The unending mystery of Twin Peaks has come to serve as a bit of a religion for me, a reminder of the unknown and how much of life does not make sense. It will be interesting to watch it all again now. 

And yeknow, the first time I watched the original series was in 2014 after my attempt at a music career (which my father fully supported) came to an end (when my music partner quit while we had a record deal on the table). It was hard to find inspiring art; everything new just seemed like it had been done before; I thought I was already a film and music connoisseur. And then I watched TP and was blown away. I listened to the Julee Cruise album constantly. Now I sing in a community choir and have embarked on a new band, things my father loved. 

I haven’t seen The Elephant Man since childhood, and I will need to watch it all the way through. 

Thank you for the kind words.

 
Posted : 13/07/2018 1:49 pm
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Hi Jesse - 

I'm so glad that you didn't give up on expressing yourself after the discouraging experience you described.  It sounds to me like your father loved you very much.  I'm sure you'll feel a little constricted in the days ahead, but when you sing again, you'll be honoring that love.

It's funny, but I also summarize my love for Twin Peaks by saying (only half-sarcastically) that it's my religion.  Maybe you should put out a Craigslist ad for musicians who like Twin Peaks?   ? I've never sought independent confirmation of this, but I once heard that the duo Stars of the Lid started collaborating because they were both fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp_uq5mHOD8

 
Posted : 13/07/2018 2:05 pm
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Sorry, I just noticed the "new band" tidbit slipped my mind while replying.  Don't diss your bandmates by putting an ad on Craigslist!  Make sure they like Twin Peaks, though.  Totally mandatory.

 
Posted : 13/07/2018 2:10 pm
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Posted by: Brandy Fisher
Posted by: Brian Hardin II

However.. that said, there is no connection that the Giant and the Fireman are the same (same actor, yes) character.

 

I wondered about this and it has had me confused this whole last year.  Are they the same character? Or are they something like doppel-tulpas?

For what it's worth, I believe they are different characters. The Giant seems to be more of an extrovert than the Fireman, more talkative, more likely to drop in unannounced, etc.

And I don't know if I dreamed this (when I tried to find it recently I couldn't), but I remember that somewhere in the canon, Mike is asked about the Giant and he says something like, "yes we know of their kind," implying that there's a bunch of white lodgers that share the same general physical characteristics. Maybe it's a false memory.

 
Posted : 13/07/2018 4:31 pm
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For what it's worth, I believe they are different characters. The Giant seems to be more of an extrovert than the Fireman, more talkative, more likely to drop in unannounced, etc.

And I don't know if I dreamed this (when I tried to find it recently I couldn't), but I remember that somewhere in the canon, Mike is asked about the Giant and he says something like, "yes we know of their kind," implying that there's a bunch of white lodgers that share the same general physical characteristics. Maybe it's a false memory.

I just Googled it, and he says, "“He is known to us here…he can help you find BOB, but you must must ask him first.”  But your basic point remains: Mike says he is known to us.  Similarly, Leland says, "They made me kill that girl Teresa."  This is really interesting because the viewer gets comfortable believing she's privy to the "inside scoop" re: Lodge activity,  but it seems we're getting something more like a keyhole view.  (The Chalfont/Tremond duo might explain this use of the plural, but I don't think that's it.)

One possible explanation might be that the Giant and the Fireman perform different functions.  The Giant can help you find BOB - if you ask him (which I don't remember Cooper ever doing).  The Fireman might be the one who shows up when you've truly screwed the pooch.

The two might nevertheless share a fundamental identity.  Some analogies I can think of are: fractals/holograms (in which each component re-presents the whole), visible light (which can be filtered into different combinations of spectral components), light tout court (which includes both visible and invisible wavelengths).

The following is not an original observation of mine but something I once read in the Wrapped in Plastic fanzine: the Red Room and the the song title "Questions in a World of Blue" both suggest an array of worlds, each one of which presents itself with a unique emphasis.  It's reasonable to assume that there would be Lodges within these worlds, Lodges encompasssing these worlds, etc, each with an array of beings that can travel within/between/across/etc.

Reason enough for a Season 4, I say!

 

 

 
Posted : 13/07/2018 5:18 pm
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Funny thing: After a few years of solitude, I find myself with a girlfriend this year. She has not yet seen all of The Return, so we started it. Finally by Part 7, I realized that we both need to reconnect a ton to the original characters. So I showed her FWWM for the first time, rewatched the first season, and are now slogging through the boring parts of Season 2. 

I think it was during the Milford wedding when my girlfriend said, "her log turned gold!"... After rewinding, we recognized that it was just the way the light reflected off it. Still, that's quite a quote to hear!! We still haven't even watched Part 8 of The Return.

Also, when Ben Horne is depressed after signing everything over to Catherine, he watches footage from the Great Northern groundbreaking ceremony. Though it's black and white, the shovels look particularly bright, as though painted with silver or GOLD!

Considering Ben's greater morality in the new season, perhaps one could say he finally shoveled his way out of the shi*.

 
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