Observation: My Log is turning GOLD  

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(@brian_hardin_ii)
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In the last scene to feature Margaret Lanterman, just before she dies, she says:

"Hawk, my log is turning gold. The wind is moaning. I’m dying. Good night, Hawk."

We all know that her husband died in a fire.. 

What if.. the fireman is her husband?  literally a fireman and no longer a lanterman... ?

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Posted : 21/06/2018 9:38 am
(@roberto_bella)
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Even if her husband isn't the Fireman, you draw a nice parallel. I'm envisioning some version of the Log Lady now residing in the White Lodge with Fireman & Dido. Kinda pleasant.

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Posted : 25/06/2018 1:45 pm
(@roberto_bella)
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And Major Briggs. Well, his head anyway!

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Posted : 25/06/2018 1:45 pm
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Posted by: Brian Hardin II

In the last scene to feature Margaret Lanterman, just before she dies, she says:

"Hawk, my log is turning gold. The wind is moaning. I’m dying. Good night, Hawk."

We all know that her husband died in a fire.. 

What if.. the fireman is her husband?  literally a fireman and no longer a lanterman... ?

Yes I like this idea!

He was called the giant until late in this season..... was it after Margaret dies that his name is revealed as the fireman? 

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Posted : 25/06/2018 3:01 pm
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Samson "Sam" Lanterman was a tall guy.

From the Secret History :

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Posted : 25/06/2018 4:13 pm
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I believe there is no way that there isn't a connection here,   with the obvious name change and being affiliated with Margaret,    who is quite obviously a very good and sincere person.     The physical likeness just clinches it for me.     I would just wonder how deep the connection runs,  was the town exposed to  simply a part of him or,   at one point,   was he fully expressed into Margaret's life and the area of Twin Peaks?

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Posted : 25/06/2018 4:53 pm
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The only bit of evidence against this is in the character of Senor Droolcup, the waiter that brings Cooper milk and hang up his phone.  He later appears in the Waiting Room and "morphs" into the Giant where he says "One and the same".

However.. that said, there is no connection that the Giant and the Fireman are the same (same actor, yes) character.

 

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Posted : 25/06/2018 5:03 pm
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Posted by: Brian Hardin II

However.. that said, there is no connection that the Giant and the Fireman are the same (same actor, yes) character.

 

I wondered about this and it has had me confused this whole last year.  Are they the same character? Or are they something like doppel-tulpas?

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Posted : 25/06/2018 5:10 pm
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But then there is the line...

"My log is turning gold."

What else do we know that turns gold in this new season???  This leads to the question.. HOW DID SHE KNOW that when tulpas die (and we cannot deny that the log is a tulpa of her husband) that they turn to gold???

 

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Posted : 25/06/2018 5:46 pm
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Posted by: Brian Hardin II

But then there is the line...

"My log is turning gold."

What else do we know that turns gold in this new season???  This leads to the question.. HOW DID SHE KNOW that when tulpas die (and we cannot deny that the log is a tulpa of her husband) that they turn to gold???

 

Good point but getting a little creepy.

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Posted : 25/06/2018 6:12 pm
(@roberto_bella)
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I thought of another problem with the Fireman as Log Lady’s hubby. Didn’t the Fireman create Laura before her husband died? Unless one argues that time is irrelevant in the White Lodge. But that’s problematic. 

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Posted : 25/06/2018 7:57 pm
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I'm pretty sure a pesky thing like time wouldn't get in Lynch's way of telling the story he wants to tell.     Consider this:    Every member of the Palmer family,   anything we've seen from any of their perspectives is highly suspect,   in my opinion.      All three of them seemed to have varying agendas,      and up until this latest iteration,   I thought Sarah was the innocent Palmer.        As this last year proved,   nothing could have been more further from the truth.

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Posted : 25/06/2018 11:06 pm
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Posted by: Roberto Bella

I thought of another problem with the Fireman as Log Lady’s hubby. Didn’t the Fireman create Laura before her husband died? Unless one argues that time is irrelevant in the White Lodge. But that’s problematic. 

Did he create Laura,  though?

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Posted : 26/06/2018 1:29 am
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Posted by: Brian Hardin II

But then there is the line...

"My log is turning gold."

What else do we know that turns gold in this new season???  This leads to the question.. HOW DID SHE KNOW that when tulpas die (and we cannot deny that the log is a tulpa of her husband) that they turn to gold???

 

But the color gold isn't exclusive to Tulpa-death.    The little boy that got mowed down also turned gold.  Garmonbozia is gold.  Laura orb is gold.  Tulpa birth is gold.  In fact, it's downright vexing that gold is both the color of what we might consider good and also what we might consider bad too.  Thanks.  Equivocate much?      

p.s. I like how your .gif kinda looks like a scarab for a split second between log n' ball. 

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Posted : 26/06/2018 2:45 am
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I don't think that Sam Lanterman and the Fireman are exactly "one and the same," for several reasons:  1) The Fireman lives on a deeper level and was already old when the atom bomb first exploded.  2) The description in the book mentions a well-tended beard, which calls to mind the bearded man at the "meeting" mentioned by Phillip Jeffries.  3) The template for a gifted human being "ascending" and leaving clues is already established in the series (Garland Briggs, Laura Palmer).  I think the Fireman is a cosmic figure who was never human.   

I'd always thought of the log as a vessel for Sam Lanterman's inhabiting spirit.  The possibility that the log might be a tulpa is interesting.  I think the significance of the log's turning gold is the same either way: as Margaret transitions into a non-mortal state, the dream of space and time becomes more transparent, revealing itself as nothing other than endless luminosity.

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Posted : 07/07/2018 11:13 am
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