Guys, I've just recently looked up the numbers of US viewers per episode on Wikipedia. It averages around 0.27 million per episode for seas3.
Seas1 pilot peaked at 34.6 million, seas2 averaged 10 million per episode. But in those days there weren't nearly as many TV shows as today.
Now I'm gonna give the today comparison with 2 other supernatural shows that I know : American Gods this season averages 0.7 million per episode, and American Horror Story last season averaged around 2.5 million per episode.
I don't get it.
I think Twin Peaks is far superior to American Gods, which I think is superior to AHS. But the numbers are reversed.
Lynch also seems to be a favorite director, among actors and movie buff/film students, but I guess not to the common audiences? Before seas3 aired, looking at the new cast announcement, that crazy list of big actors that get on the show, I thought this would boost exposure to the new generation who weren't there when the original aired.
Is it the lack of trailers and promotions? Lynch did that I'm sure to keep secrets air tight.
TV ratings have fundamentally changed. In terms of streaming and/or "on demand" viewing, Twin Peaks is performing very well for Showtime - better than even programs like Masters of Sex or House of Lies, both of which ran for multiple years.
There's a great article on Buzzfeed today about this very subject.
Since I'm not American, I don't know how things work with TV, but is it aired on cable or is it on Showtime as in paid for?
I remember reading something several years ago about Dexter, which had lower rating but that is the case when it's on a channel like that. So it seems difficult to compare?
Also, "Twin Peaks" has stayed alive because of the streaming services such as Netflix, and being available for many years for free online. The DVDs must have done well, because they keep releasing a steady stream. Will "American Gods" or "AHS" perform as well once the shows end, as "Twin Peaks" will undoubtedly do?
TV ratings have fundamentally changed. In terms of streaming and/or "on demand" viewing, Twin Peaks is performing very well for Showtime - better than even programs like Masters of Sex or House of Lies, both of which ran for multiple years.
There's a great article on Buzzfeed today about this very subject.
Thanks for that article, samstanley. ?
So 2.5 million totaling with on-demand and streaming. Not bad, although I'm still miffed because the other 2 shows I compared it with above might be pulling numbers from on-demand and streaming too.
Also, "Twin Peaks" has stayed alive because of the streaming services such as Netflix, and being available for many years for free online. The DVDs must have done well, because they keep releasing a steady stream. Will "American Gods" or "AHS" perform as well once the shows end, as "Twin Peaks" will undoubtedly do?
Oh there's no question about longevity. TP is cult. How many canceled shows still have fan conventions 2 decades later.
But I wanna know if seas3 is bringing in many new fans, especially the millennials. I mean this is the age where Kim Kardashian controls numbers, I think the masses' tastes have somewhat been inverted.
I plan on ending my Showtime subscription about a week after Part 17 and 18 end, to let Showtime know that that the 10 dollars a month for 5 months was only because of Twin Peaks. I want season 4 and a mass exodus from showtime right after the end of the show will make a statement.
That is my plan too, except my intent is not to make a statement. My intent is to then switch to Netflix after TP ends.
I wonder if it is such a good idea to quit Showtime after the season ends. I mean, Showtime might be less likely to agree to stream a Season 4 ( I am hoping for one) if they think it doesn't bring in long-term Showtime subscribers. Of course, another venue might do it. Showtime has some other streaming shows I am interested in, so I may stay with it.
Well, if Showtime were aiming for more sign-ups, Twin Peaks has done a damn fine job:
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/twin-peaks-showtime-streaming-ratings-1202441519/
- and a % of those signups will continue their subscription. So TV companies will be starting to look at what programmes may not appear to have huge ratings, but will bring them a lot of new customers.
I have a lot of friends who began re-watching Seasons 1-2 after 3 began (or started watching for the first time). I think that Showtime will see continued viewings of Season 3 over the course of time and will most likely base their information not only around the time of the first airings but the weeks/months to follow.
The ratings game has changed and they're looking at the bigger picture.
Yeah, I think they are waiting for the final count of all streaming. I get why a lot of people are not into it. It seems what passes for good television are programs/shows that spoon feed the audience. Twin Peaks requires appreciation of cinematic aesthetics and stylization, a bit of a cerebral mind, and the ability to understand different complex forms of narrative and metaphorical content. Basically, the ability to think critically and analytically. Unfortunately, these are abilities that seem to be dwindling among my fellow countrymen 🙁
If you're a TP fan, consider yourself a well-rounded, educated individual! 🙂
I have to imagine since TP is behind a pay wall for a service that most don't care to subscribe to...the torrent numbers have to be through the roof.
I hope there is a season 4...not sure where 3 will end up but it seems there will be more to address at the pace it's going.
Also, "Twin Peaks" has stayed alive because of the streaming services such as Netflix, and being available for many years for free online. The DVDs must have done well, because they keep releasing a steady stream. Will "American Gods" or "AHS" perform as well once the shows end, as "Twin Peaks" will undoubtedly do?
Oh there's no question about longevity. TP is cult. How many canceled shows still have fan conventions 2 decades later.
Only one ( actually has longer following, with good reason ) Dark Shadows, the other big show which changed television back in its time.
Since I'm not American, I don't know how things work with TV, but is it aired on cable or is it on Showtime as in paid for?
I remember reading something several years ago about Dexter, which had lower rating but that is the case when it's on a channel like that. So it seems difficult to compare?
Showtime is a subscriber cable network. They created a streaming channel so having cable is not required to subscribe ( watch on a streaming connected tv, or on a computer or device connected to internet )
Over the air free tv is very restricted in what it can put out, and years back when a Superbowl ( football ) half-time show had an accidental nipple-slip live, rightwingers screamed their heads off and the FCC clamped down hard censorship on all over-the-air free tv, even classic nude paintings in the background of a scene get blurred-out. Subscriber tv networks don't have this nonsense.
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