I know this is going a little off-topic and starting to get into a contentious issue, but...
As someone who lives in a small town in rural England, I find the over-use of guns a bit off-putting. You have an argument with someone in a cafe and they immediately point a gun at your face?
Maybe I live an overly sheltered life in my quiet, sleepy part of the world, but I'm not sure I've ever actually seen anyone with a gun. That sounds like a ridiculous thing to say, I know, but I'm racking my brains trying to think of a time when I actually saw someone holding a gun, and I don't think I can.
I know that if I'm going to choose something unrealistic to pick on about The Return, guns is a very minor issue, but it's just something that occurred to me last night while watching it. I mean, people shouldn't even be walking around with guns in the first place, never mind over-reacting by pulling it out and pointing it at someone as soon as they dare to say "boo" to them.
Come on, let's all put the guns away, hold hands, and have a good old sing song...
Wow. Yeah... unfortunately that would be yrev, very realistic for rural America.
I think Lynch actually had a few anti-gun sentiments woven into this season. He's made it plain that we have a lot of Americans who really love their guns, and who have them everywhere they go - remember the minivan family that lost track of their gun and the little boy used it to shoot into the diner? But I don't believe he thinks of this as a good thing. To me, when Coop put the guns in the fryer (Part 18), it was Lynch commenting on our weaknesses as a nation. To a lot of folks, what could be better than deep-fried guns? It's sort of a silly, yet pointed way of saying, here's a big portion of American society in a nutshell. Mmmm...fried guns.... 😀
It was a tired stereotype portraying Texas males as cowboy-hat-wearing, gun-toting, waitress-abusing rednecks.
That whole scene was pretty sloppily written, as an FBI agent:
1. Wouldn't shoot a guy in the foot
2. Wouldn't wave his gun around with his trigger finger inside the trigger guard (you hold your finger outside the trigger guard so that you don't accidentally fire the gun if you're startled and reflexively close your hand)
3. Leave weapons on the scene, even if he dropped them in a deep fryer
4. Drop the guns in the deep fryer without first removing the magazines and the chambered rounds
It was a tired stereotype portraying Texas males as cowboy-hat-wearing, gun-toting, waitress-abusing rednecks.
That whole scene was pretty sloppily written, as an FBI agent:
1. Wouldn't shoot a guy in the foot
2. Wouldn't wave his gun around with his trigger finger inside the trigger guard (you hold your finger outside the trigger guard so that you don't accidentally fire the gun if you're startled and reflexively close your hand)
3. Leave weapons on the scene, even if he dropped them in a deep fryer
4. Drop the guns in the deep fryer without first removing the magazines and the chambered rounds
I would agree. I noticed these things too and it was all ridiculous.
Not sure that I agree it was sloppy writing though. Maybe it was, or maybe it the portrait of a different Cooper, one that we don't recognize or know. Didn't that letter fro Linda say something to the effect of "I don't even recognize you anymore?"
Anyhow, I am thinking this ridiculous scene was intentional and well thought out. Not well as in good, but well as in thoroughly. We see Cooper leave a different lodging, get in a different car. Why wouldn't we see him behave in a different way?
An FBI agent also wouldn't throw rocks at glass bottles to solve a murder (who knew?). I don't think the scene in the diner is about a realistic portrayal of what an FBI agent would do in that situation, rather, it highlights how different "Richard" is from Cooper. It also waivers between absurdist Tarantino type comedy and uncanny satire.
An FBI agent also wouldn't throw rocks at glass bottles to solve a murder (who knew?). I don't think the scene in the diner is about a realistic portrayal of what an FBI agent would do in that situation, rather, it highlights how different "Richard" is from Cooper. It also waivers between absurdist Tarantino type comedy and uncanny satire.
HaHa, very good point.
I was hoping Cooper would have given the cowboy the standard FBI nose grip Desmond gave the deputy in FWWM.
I too live in a gun free environment (I can't think of a single person I know possessing a hand gun).
It was a tired stereotype portraying Texas males as cowboy-hat-wearing, gun-toting, waitress-abusing rednecks.
That whole scene was pretty sloppily written, as an FBI agent:
1. Wouldn't shoot a guy in the foot
2. Wouldn't wave his gun around with his trigger finger inside the trigger guard (you hold your finger outside the trigger guard so that you don't accidentally fire the gun if you're startled and reflexively close your hand)
3. Leave weapons on the scene, even if he dropped them in a deep fryer
4. Drop the guns in the deep fryer without first removing the magazines and the chambered rounds
I would agree. I noticed these things too and it was all ridiculous.
Not sure that I agree it was sloppy writing though. Maybe it was, or maybe it the portrait of a different Cooper, one that we don't recognize or know. Didn't that letter fro Linda say something to the effect of "I don't even recognize you anymore?"
Anyhow, I am thinking this ridiculous scene was intentional and well thought out. Not well as in good, but well as in thoroughly. We see Cooper leave a different lodging, get in a different car. Why wouldn't we see him behave in a different way?
It's absolutely intentional. This Coop is different in fundamental ways. As others have speculated he seems to have aspects of Bad Coop rolled in.
Re: guns in general, American TV is absolutely SATURATED with guns. It's like subconscious warfare. Power trip fantasies that all life can be solved from the barrel of a weapon. And an obvious substitute for the male member most of the time.
an FBI agent:
5. Wouldn't ignore a body clearly shot in the head, even if it's in Laura Palmer's house
an FBI agent:
5. Wouldn't ignore a body clearly shot in the head, even if it's in Laura Palmer's house
Lynch & Frost obviously didn't want to miss one last opportunity to set something up that doesn't get resolved.
an FBI agent:
5. Wouldn't ignore a body clearly shot in the head, even if it's in Laura Palmer's house
Lynch & Frost obviously didn't want to miss one last opportunity to set something up that doesn't get resolved.
Exactly what do we need to get resolved here? That Carrie Page is a tortured, tormented soul with a long sordid history of being abused by men? At least in this version of reality she's actively done something to stop her abusers, however violent and misguided it may have been.
an FBI agent:
5. Wouldn't ignore a body clearly shot in the head, even if it's in Laura Palmer's house
Lynch & Frost obviously didn't want to miss one last opportunity to set something up that doesn't get resolved.
Exactly what do we need to get resolved here? That Carrie Page is a tortured, tormented soul with a long sordid history of being abused by men? At least in this version of reality she's actively done something to stop her abusers, however violent and misguided it may have been.
There have been a few comments that Carrie is being abused. Is there something I missed that confirms this or is this just conjecture? Sure, it is highly likely but it's also entirely possible that it was not an abusive spouse/partner. We don't even know for certain that Carrie was even the one who shot the guy. I can think of a half a dozen other possibilities off the top of my head.
It was a tired stereotype portraying Texas males as cowboy-hat-wearing, gun-toting, waitress-abusing rednecks.
That whole scene was pretty sloppily written, as an FBI agent:
1. Wouldn't shoot a guy in the foot
2. Wouldn't wave his gun around with his trigger finger inside the trigger guard (you hold your finger outside the trigger guard so that you don't accidentally fire the gun if you're startled and reflexively close your hand)
3. Leave weapons on the scene, even if he dropped them in a deep fryer
4. Drop the guns in the deep fryer without first removing the magazines and the chambered rounds
Richard/Coop disposing the guns in the fryer symbolized descending of Coop into a hot hellish pit. The guns represented Coop's law enforcement career as well as Coop himself. By being placed in a fryer, they represent the end of Coop's law enforcement career and the end of doing things the right way (preserving evidence).
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