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Maybe Albert wasn't added to the Blue Rose team until after Cooper went missing? I remember in Season 1, when Cooper requests a forensics specialist, he asks for Albert instead of some other person. He says specifically it's because Albert "seems to be more on the ball" or something like that; it's not implicitly understood that Albert is the one meant for this case. Then again, maybe that was just Cooper's secret way of getting his Blue Rose teammate to Twin Peaks.
Eh, who knows.
Jesse,
I vaguely remember that the other examiner was Sutherland's character from FWWM, but it was suggested, if I remember again, he had already developed his drinking problem post Chet's disappearance within that roughly year's time.
Maybe Albert wasn't added to the Blue Rose team until after Cooper went missing? I remember in Season 1, when Cooper requests a forensics specialist, he asks for Albert instead of some other person.
Instead of Sam he says. The kiefer Sutherland character partnered with Chet in FWWM
Albert certainly doesn't seem to be hip to Blue Rose stuff in seasons 1 or 2....at least not with respect to visions of dwarves and giants. Thought he does have that change-of-heart towards Truman and towards Cooper's approach in the end.
What I find odd is how the blue rose team are more of a club, rather than a government sanctioned unit.
A friend of mine likened it to Mulder's interest in the X-Files TV series.
I'd be interested to know if the blue rose cases are so top secret from a government perspective that there is no official investigative team, and instead the FBI agents that regularly deal with these paranormal events have simply banded together out of moral reasons or personal interest.
Albert certainly doesn't seem to be hip to Blue Rose stuff in seasons 1 or 2....at least not with respect to visions of dwarves and giants. Thought he does have that change-of-heart towards Truman and towards Cooper's approach in the end.
In all fairness even Coop and Gordon didn't look exactly like that was their bread and butter.
When Jeffries points at Coop, he says "Who do you think that is there?"
Given that FWWM was made after the series, I have always found this to be an intentional implication that Jeffries is aware of the future DoppelCooper already.
When Jeffries points at Coop, he says "Who do you think that is there?"
Given that FWWM was made after the series, I have always found this to be an intentional implication that Jeffries is aware of the future DoppelCooper already.
I think you are right. That line from Jeffries was always so confusing. I thought at the time that Jeffries was either hallucinating or accusing Agent Cooper of something. The end of Season 2 introduced doppelganger, but I only made the connection in Season 3.
Time is certainly skewed and distorted in Twin Peaks.
Philip seems to know that Cooper isn't really Cooper.
Annie appears to Laura in her bed as she appears months later.
25 years later.
Is it future or is it past.
Who knows, maybe Laura isn't dead after all.
When Jeffries points at Coop, he says "Who do you think that is there?"
Given that FWWM was made after the series, I have always found this to be an intentional implication that Jeffries is aware of the future DoppelCooper already.
Yeah, I've always interpreted it as Jeffries got trapped in the Lodge as well and there he saw Coop's doppelganger.
When Jeffries points at Coop, he says "Who do you think that is there?"
Given that FWWM was made after the series, I have always found this to be an intentional implication that Jeffries is aware of the future DoppelCooper already.
Yeah, I've always interpreted it as Jeffries got trapped in the Lodge as well and there he saw Coop's doppelganger.
It's so sad that David Bowie passed away far too soon, imagine the possibilities if he and David Lynch could have filmed scenes together.
For the person that said Blue Rose is a club instead of a government sanctioned unit. It is a not a government sanctioned unit. In the Secret History it is implied that part of our government made a deal with "grey" which appear to be black lodge denizens instead of Nordic types which appear to be the Giant and White Lodge denizens. This deal was for genetic material from us in exchange for technology. Nixon appoints Douglas Milford to set up a Unit to figure out what are these denizens and what this other part of the government is up to. I think it was MJ12 that made this deal.
For me The Secret History really sets a nice thread to view some of the lack of trust we are seeing amongst characters, especially the ones with information. I am leaning toward Dianne and Jefferies got spoked by something and are not "bad" but working outside of things for a better end. But that is me hoping Dianne is ok, the scene with "Let's Rock" this episode shock that in me and I am not sure on any of this. Which makes me love this whole series.
Cooper must have known about the Blue Rose in some capacity. At least, if we're counting The Missing Pieces as canon, that is...
In the scene entitled Stanley's Apartment, Sam asks Cooper about the Blue Rose he saw on Lil's dress. My theory is that Cooper was inducted shortly after the encounter with Jeffries at FBI Headquarters. I reckon that his investigation into the disappearance of Desmond resulted in Gordon telling him the full story about the Blue Rose and inducting him into it.
And of course in the film he says "This is one of Gordon's Blue Rose cases..."
For the person that said Blue Rose is a club instead of a government sanctioned unit. It is a not a government sanctioned unit. In the Secret History it is implied that part of our government made a deal with "grey" which appear to be black lodge denizens instead of Nordic types which appear to be the Giant and White Lodge denizens. This deal was for genetic material from us in exchange for technology. Nixon appoints Douglas Milford to set up a Unit to figure out what are these denizens and what this other part of the government is up to. I think it was MJ12 that made this deal.
For me The Secret History really sets a nice thread to view some of the lack of trust we are seeing amongst characters, especially the ones with information. I am leaning toward Dianne and Jefferies got spoked by something and are not "bad" but working outside of things for a better end. But that is me hoping Dianne is ok, the scene with "Let's Rock" this episode shock that in me and I am not sure on any of this. Which makes me love this whole series.
"That's Mark Frost's vision of Twin Peaks." - David Lynch
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