Around the dinner table, the conversation was lively. Thank you but for now, the forum has been archived.
Hi Mark,
Thanks for all your hard work!
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There is a shot of the entire map, lying on the table (it is the screen shot of for the episode if you watch it on the Showtime app- I have watched the episode seversl times now, and that shot is not in it.
ShowtimeAnytime posted the full map! Black Dogs/Wolves, a white man in a sheriff's hat reaching towards something above the twin peaks, a bear paw and a black cloud raining blood?
Ah, THERE it is- funny that they give us this, but not in the actual episode!
Hello! Thought I will drop a line about the map (and some fundamental things in general). David Lynch is tapping into subconscious a lot, therefore his creations might be perceived in the same ways dreams are analysed (especially all the surreal stuff). Jungian approach can be applied as well (archetypes, collective subconscious etc.). So, even if some things were put from intuition, they would still make symbolic sense.
The map is a very interesting thing, which is perfect illustration of this. My very first thought was that those swallows (which seem pointing to the portal circle in the middle) symbolise something. This led me to Hopi genesis legend, which (among many other things, including dark parallel realms, mother of all wizards and witches, dark locusts and whatnot) tells about Swallow who brings first people corn... Probably not the direct relation, but archetypes are definitely there.
Might post more if will find time to analyse whole map properly!
Link to the legend is below (and its really a nice read!):
http://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Legends/HowtheHopiIndiansReachedTheirWorld-Hopi.html
That round portal thing sure does look like the teddy bears mouth.
And this is what I was able to put together from screenshots.
Thank you! It looks awesome.
The map in big size :
An animal part ?
The man could be gesturing skyward akin to what Gordon does when watching the vortex....I suspect that the red lines mean the men are casting spells...there also appears to be a shooting star involved...
The symbol to the right of the black corn looks familar... a hand with a piece of the palm ripped off.
The symbol to the right of the black corn looks familar... a hand with a piece of the palm ripped off.
I like the way you think.....
Here are my instinctual takes on the left side of the map: Warrior is dancing, wielding bear paw and rod and saying words of power to ward off the "black dot" attacker descending between the peaks. To the warrior's left are two buffalo leaving the scene, much like the red horse (animals are more sensitive than we are, they know when to get out) further left are two people that I take to be women, speaking words of power as well. Above the "women" are a row of three rifles, near a log cabin , firing at the attacker. To the extreme left of the "women" are three horned "beings"-possibly a reference to the "mother/experiment"....which could mean the descending black figure is even more malevolent than the "mother/experiment"....?....shit.
Continuing the theme for part of the right side of the map: A White man in a cowboy/sheriff's hat gestures to the area above the peaks, speaking words of power and summoning a "falling star"-above him are images of a red star over a bear paw, and black lightning over a black cloud raining blood-perhaps meaning: "this is the story of the war between the bear paw clan and the black lightning people". The entire map could be a reference to a furious battle in the 1860's between the first peoples/natives with a force unleashed by white interference....Winchester rifles were invented in 1866, and Stetson made the first cowboy hat in 1865. Looks to me like white men couldn't resist tampering with something the first people's had learned to avoid and evade. Hawk has probably seen something in the map that tells him "it is happening again". What I can't comprehend is the ten "mounds" behind the "cowboy/sheriff" and the row of five groups of four slashes....10/20?
Extreme left side of map: Eagle, Moose, Turtle, Sacred Pipe, War Banner-Tribal Identification?, a row of horses: Green, Brown, Yellow, Red, Gray-then a row of three "ant beings" with wings...possibly "moth-frogs"? There are other images under these, but they are out-of-shot.
The symbol to the right of the black corn looks familar... a hand with a piece of the palm ripped off.
There was earlier mention by Cole of the "spirit mound" which is a real place in south dakota which the local first peoples avoided, due to the vicious "little people" living in the mound who attacked and killed half of a war party that wandered into the area.....Lewis and Clark climbed it, of course...
That round portal thing sure does look like the teddy bears mouth.
"Hello, Hawk, how are you today"?