Ruth's body and murder  

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(@moonchild)
RR Diner Patron

So we finally know where Ruth's body is....but what about Briggs head? This is the "portal where Hastings and Ruth met Briggs" but all we can see is the black men on a stair...so was Briggs with them? maybe in the convenience store...that doesn't look like a great place to hide to me...

What happened here????? Hastings and Ruth found the portal, they found Briggs.... then someone (mr c?) arrived and killed both Ruth and Briggs and framed Hastings....

we know Mr C was helped by Hasting's wife (you copied human nature perfectly...) so did she do it?

why did Briggs give Ruth another set of coordinates???  

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Posted : 24/07/2017 2:41 am
(@caoimhin)
Detective

 Bill said that he saw Briggs' head float up and away, so I'm guessing that his head turned into the same head that Cooper saw in part 3. Meaning, there is no longer a physical human head to be found. 

As far as the site itself, I like the convenient store theory but agree that it doesn't seem like a good place to hibernate. Perhaps there is more than one portal at this site? 

I think Mr C killed Ruth 'cause he killed Phyllis in the same way (gunshot through left eye). She probably just helped Cooper frame Bill. Not certain though. Maybe the woodsmen killed her. 

The coordinates on Ruth's arm are the ones she brought to Briggs. They aren't an extra set. 

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Posted : 24/07/2017 3:10 am
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(@tom_gordon)
Lodger

When Hastings was describing the scene where Briggs and Ruth were killed, he said something like:
"There were so many people there"

I'm thinking that most of those "people" were the woodsmen/bearded men.

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Posted : 24/07/2017 3:17 am
(@fishinthepercolator)
RR Diner Patron

Briggs told Hastings he was hibernated there and was trying to go somewhere else, the the head disappeared and Ruth was killed. I guess his head went to that other place, which is where Cooper saw it in part 3. I'm skeptical about Mr. C being there (even though at first I also made the the bullet in the eye connection with Phyllis murder), because he was trying to get those coordinates from Ray. If he was there he would have heard or he could have simply taken a look at Ruth's corpse to find out the coordinates in her arm. Maybe Ray was there, since he knew the coordinates. I guess the other people were the woodsmen. Also, I think it's not impossible that Briggs was in some hidden dimension, but the woodsmen found out about him when Hastings and his crew went in, then they turned into another part (department?) of the convenience store.

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Posted : 24/07/2017 7:10 am
(@fumiko)
Roadhouse Regular

The opening sequence always depicts what looks like a ring of fire that moves into position over Laura Palmer's right eye.  Something I'm kinda hoping has larger meaning. 

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Posted : 24/07/2017 8:18 am
(@ric_bissell)
Deputy
Posted by: kdawg68

The opening sequence always depicts what looks like a ring of fire that moves into position over Laura Palmer's right eye.  Something I'm kinda hoping has larger meaning. 

Hi dawg,

It looks like the same orb that came out of the Fireman's forehead to me.  The one with Laura's image in it (without the image, of course ;-)).  =:-O

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That's strange - even for Cooper

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Posted : 24/07/2017 2:15 pm
(@wallybrando)
Owl

Apologies for being dumb, but wasn't it Hastings' SECRETARY that was supposed to have the co-ordinates, NOT Ruth (though she probably had them too)? Wasn't it the secretary Ray was looking for to get Mr C his precious information? And as I recall wasn't is Hastings' secretary (NOT Ruth) that Phyllis revealed Bill had had an affair with? 

So I guess my overall question is, Where is Hastings' secretary in all this? Does she even have a name? 

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Posted : 25/07/2017 11:57 am
(@mad-sweeney)
Roadhouse Regular

Her name was Betty. She's dead, too, from a car explosion according to the Wiki but I don't recall how we know that.
(edit: more digging indicates it's from Part 9, but I've yet to find out how it was revealed)

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Posted : 25/07/2017 12:13 pm
(@wallybrando)
Owl
Posted by: James M Sweeney

Her name was Betty. She's dead, too, from a car explosion according to the Wiki but I don't recall how we know that.

So I assume that, as it was Ray's mission to get to her, then she must have died at some point after ep 3? In which case had Ray already found her prior to his arrest? (Otherwise why would Mr C bother getting him out of jail. Also it appears from the exchange that Ray already had the information.) 

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Posted : 25/07/2017 12:18 pm
(@myn0k)
Deputy

Regarding the difference between what Hastings and Cole saw, I see this as Hastings had lodge assistance from Briggs, whereas the only ambient feeling when Cole stood there was fear, hence the dirty gremlin men!

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Posted : 25/07/2017 12:30 pm
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