Edit disappears after a short while... I manage to make myself look like an idiot without needing to edit. It's a gift.
Ah! Maybe that's it - I was looking to edit some of my (in my mind) infamous posts re: Ike, the mirror, and his bandaged arm, but wasn't finding the Edit button. I should just follow your lead, and be happy that I managed to make myself look like an idiot without needing to edit. 😎
----but it is possible that my strange temporary confusion over mirror reflections is symptomatic of someone who has been re-running episodes of The Return too often.--
Edit disappears after a short while... I manage to make myself look like an idiot without needing to edit. It's a gift.
Ah! Maybe that's it - I was looking to edit some of my (in my mind) infamous posts re: Ike, the mirror, and his bandaged arm, but wasn't finding the Edit button. I should just follow your lead, and be happy that I managed to make myself look like an idiot without needing to edit. 😎
----but it is possible that my strange temporary confusion over mirror reflections is symptomatic of someone who has been re-running episodes of The Return too often.--
Where I lead, others follow. Whether or not they actually want to is debatable, but still...
Ha! I like Randy's response which ends: "Maybe I wouldn't tolerate more than one TP: The Return in my life, but I'm thankful to David, Mark and their entire creative team for giving me this one delicious slice of bizarre escape from the mundane."
I'm also watching the third season of Fargo at the moment. (no spoilers) It's obviously a conventional story told in a completely conventional TV way. But it delivers a hell of a lot of thought provoking and really complex character, commentary and ideas about the world.
I'm always stuck by the "I show you light now..." scene in Inland Empire. What is taking place is very strange but the emotions are totally real, and on an emotional human level, the scene (and the whole film maybe) is totally understandable. I'm not finding that same feeling with Twin Peaks: The Return.
...What is taking place is very strange but the emotions are totally real, and on an emotional human level, the scene (and the whole film maybe) is totally understandable. I'm not finding that same feeling with Twin Peaks: The Return.
Thanks for the thumbs up on that quote of mine. - What you're saying here makes sense to me - the shows you've mentioned are designed to elicit an emotional response from the audience. The new TP doesn't seem to be attempting any such manipulation.
The original TP did play to our emotions to some extent, especially in the first half of season one when we saw the distraught reactions to Laura's death from so many characters. But at the same time, there was always a satirical edge to the melodrama of the events, pretty bluntly suggested by the constant parallel reference to the TV soap opera, meant to make us realize that much of what we were seeing was also simply soap opera, and not so much in the realm of trying to sincerely engage our emotions. --
Like being in an art film house and watching some very abstract films, surreal images, intellectual exercises et al - there's not much, if anything, for us to have an emotional response to in The Return. What characters do we really care about enough to be concerned about what happens to them? Maybe Director Cole - I'm not sure I'm even especially rooting for Good Cooper to recuperate. -- See what I did there? Re-Cooper-ate. 😎
Opera. That's how it is for me with Opera. I know it's good, I generally enjoy classical music anyhow and most Operas were written by composers I like but Opera itself is like fingernails down a blackboard to me. One exception is Carmen; that is something I could never get tired of hearing.
Maybe this iteration of Twin Peaks is your equivalent to my Opera.
Opera. That's how it is for me with Opera. I know it's good, I generally enjoy classical music anyhow and most Operas were written by composers I like but Opera itself is like fingernails down a blackboard to me. One exception is Carmen; that is something I could never get tired of hearing.
Maybe this iteration of Twin Peaks is your equivalent to my Opera.
Opera is a great comparison! I definitely want to think about that more.
Wow, you can get all that from being just past halfway? I wish my crystal ball was that good.
"The shape of the show has pretty much presented itself to us. It is now obvious that there is far too much to be resolved in the remaining episodes."
Based on what? Other shows? Be honest, none of us here have the slightest idea what's going to happen next. Episode 8 should tell you that, if nothing else. There's no way you can base any outcome on previous shows; even on previous Lynch outings or the old Twin Peaks. This is a whole nother thing.
I'm not even sure traditional story telling techniques can apply beyond certain limits here. In any case, there are 8 more episodes in store, which IMO gives plenty of time to get everything said and done.
I'll happily admit I was wrong - if I'm proven wrong - but I ain't rushing into making any predictions.
The show has reached a point imo where there's too much going on to wrap it all up cleanly in six episodes.
I'm still watching and will see what happens, but I'm afraid this may set up for a fourth season that sadly may not happen.
In regards to how positive you are it will play out well, imo that's simply fanboyistic (lack of a better word) and not very rational, which is ok.
You know, I don't get upset over different opinions about a tv show but what really, really hacks me off is when people say "We" when they mean "I". Please remember, you speak for nobody but yourself here; there is no safety in numbers.
"We are half way through" is just true. I start by saying "I think" and continue in that register.
Are you further in the show than the rest of us?
Ugh. Here comes the"they disagree, get em!" Mentality.
Wow, you can get all that from being just past halfway? I wish my crystal ball was that good.
"The shape of the show has pretty much presented itself to us. It is now obvious that there is far too much to be resolved in the remaining episodes."
Based on what? Other shows? Be honest, none of us here have the slightest idea what's going to happen next. Episode 8 should tell you that, if nothing else. There's no way you can base any outcome on previous shows; even on previous Lynch outings or the old Twin Peaks. This is a whole nother thing.
I'm not even sure traditional story telling techniques can apply beyond certain limits here. In any case, there are 8 more episodes in store, which IMO gives plenty of time to get everything said and done.
I'll happily admit I was wrong - if I'm proven wrong - but I ain't rushing into making any predictions.
The show has reached a point imo where there's too much going on to wrap it all up cleanly in six episodes.
I'm still watching and will see what happens, but I'm afraid this may set up for a fourth season that sadly may not happen.
In regards to how positive you are it will play out well, imo that's simply fanboyistic (lack of a better word) and not very rational, which is ok.
Nah, I'm just keeping an open mind. Too old to be a fanboy about anything.
...there's too much going on to wrap it all up cleanly in six episodes...
That could depend on what "wrap it all up cleanly" means. It's possible it will conclude in a TP way, which is to say in some unpredictable and not entirely transparent way, which isn't going to be the same kind of wrapping up conventional shows do. Finding the conclusion satisfying or not could depend on how the show's been sitting with us throughout. We'll see!--and I'm sure people will have widely varying opinions about how the ending works.
I wonder if the original poster is still ready to quit?
I wonder if the original poster is still ready to quit?
Probably has. Or it was just a drive by trolling.
I'm more puzzled that anybody has watched 10 hours of something - but is not a 'fan' (of any gender)
I'm not sure how many bystanders are out there desperate for neutral reviews...?
I'm more puzzled that anybody has watched 10 hours of something - but is not a 'fan' (of any gender)
I'm not sure how many bystanders are out there desperate for neutral reviews...?
Easy. Just watch and enjoy. Being a fan implies the absence of critical faculties, or some deep emotional investment in the thing. I'll feel annoyed for wasting my time if it turns out to have a cop out ending like Lost but I seriously doubt it'll scar me for life.
So far I'm enjoying what I've watched. Doesn't mean I either have to accept anything without question, nor defend the show to others who don't like it.
Fact is, I don't give a rat's ass what anyone else thinks about the show.
See, I don't think being a 'fan' does imply lack of critical faculties, but some appreciation of what you're watching.
Which just seems, errr, sensible.
If I ever found myself watching 10 hours of tv (not to mention posting on a forum) and calling other people *fanboy* - I think I'd look for a new hobby!
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