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Trying to find out if this is Coops FBI pin in Mr Cs hair. ....
No this is not a FBI pin (the picture posted last week was clearer), it's a pony tail holder (maybe a little too girly 🙂 ).
As I'm re-watching, I'm looking for his hair ties. It seems there was something different at one point that we all talked about. Was it gold?
The new thing I'm driving myself nuts with is the FBI pin. Coop doesn't have it in the final scene in the Sheriff's Office, but then he does have it in the basement of the Great Northern. It implies these events are NOT being show in order.
Just before the basement scene, Cooper (with no pin) is disappearing in the Sheriff Office.
And after that, he is in the basement with his FBI pin (and Diane is wearing the same bathrobe).
My guess is that the opening scene from part 1 with the Fireman is taking place between these 2 scenes in Twin Peaks.
Cooper goes out of the red room many times in The Return.
At the end of the Fireman "remember" scene, Cooper is "erased", like the body of Laura Palmer on the shore.
Maybe in the erased part, the Fireman gave him the pin he was needing for his last mission.
Another theory to debunk 😉
It's as good a guess as any :->
I have a (bad?) feeling that the only way to "fully" explain all of it is to accept that the time loops create paradoxes. In other words, piecing together a completely linear timeline might not really work, and events that happen in the future actually contribute to events that happen in the past. So in a kind of circular fashion all events are related and affect one another (like the end of "Lost Highway" being the beginning too with Fred at the intercom). But trying to grid them all onto a timeline is fraught with peril :->
Re: Coop disappearing from the Fireman's lodge, that's another intriguing moment. It suggests that changes to the timeline take him away from there. But the order of events is hard to discern, as mentioned.
4. A new Dougie is created immediately after. Ironically when Dougie gets to Janey-E's he only says "Home" echoing Dale in the woods.
In a part I just watched (9?), it becomes questionable when exactly Dougie came into existence. The 3 stooge detectives of Clark County NV are flummoxed by Dougie having no past further back than....I think they said 12 years? Might have been any amount of years between 10-15. But it definitely was NOT 25.
They wondered if Dougies was under witness protection or something of that nature. We know that to not be the case. But I think it is safe to assume that Dougie was likely created at this point which would have been at least 10 years after Laura's death.
Why do you suppose the delay in making Dougie?
4. A new Dougie is created immediately after. Ironically when Dougie gets to Janey-E's he only says "Home" echoing Dale in the woods.
In a part I just watched (9?), it becomes questionable when exactly Dougie came into existence. The 3 stooge detectives of Clark County NV are flummoxed by Dougie having no past further back than....I think they said 12 years? Might have been any amount of years between 10-15. But it definitely was NOT 25.
They wondered if Dougies was under witness protection or something of that nature. We know that to not be the case. But I think it is safe to assume that Dougie was likely created at this point which would have been at least 10 years after Laura's death.
Why do you suppose the delay in making Dougie?
Good question. Without re-watching right now to be sure, I believe they said there was no record of Dougie prior to 1997. Since most evidence points to 2016 as the year the action takes place, Dougie's been around for 19 years.
Maybe Mr. C was too busy setting up his criminal empire and amassing vast amounts of money to worry about his 25 year time limit. After a few years, when he had more time for reflection, he developed his plan and created Dougie.
Watch it again. There is a bit of back and forth throughout the whole explosion.
Yeah, see what you mean. . . mmmm. very interesting. . .
Of course some new weird "evidence" has been pondered about what time/year any scene could be happening at any time really.
I wonder if we remember the official or unofficial version.
Watch it again. There is a bit of back and forth throughout the whole explosion.
Yeah, see what you mean. . . mmmm. very interesting. . .
I don't think it debunks any theories. Just makes them more......mysterious? Confusing?
Of course some new weird "evidence" has been pondered about what time/year any scene could be happening at any time really.
I wonder if we remember the official or unofficial version.
question for you: on your rewatch, have you found anything that suggests that we're watching multiple, different timelines? I actually went into this rewatch specifically trying to find that. One thing I found was in the casino there is a scene with the casino manager watching coop and when the camera cuts back there are more people standing with him than there should be (I'll have to dig to find it). Then that blip in the cafe where all the extras take place (I'm only up to episode 8).
Have u noticed anything else?
Edit: lol both confusing and mysterious . . . which seems about what Lynch would want
Of course some new weird "evidence" has been pondered about what time/year any scene could be happening at any time really.
I wonder if we remember the official or unofficial version.
question for you: on your rewatch, have you found anything that suggests that we're watching multiple, different timelines? I actually went into this rewatch specifically trying to find that. One thing I found was in the casino there is a scene with the casino manager watching coop and when the camera cuts back there are more people standing with him than there should be (I'll have to dig to find it). Then that blip in the cafe where all the extras take place (I'm only up to episode 8).
Have u noticed anything else?
Edit: lol both confusing and mysterious . . . which seems about what Lynch would want
I haven't noticed anything specific to multiple timelines. But I wasn't looking for them. There are some cases of inconsistent timelines which COULD be possible the same thing, depending on the perspective.
The one that I've always remembered but haven't reached yet in my re-watch, is the scene where Bobby is talking Norma & Ed having something to do with things that have happened already.
Ok, maybe I don't exactly remember it. I just remember being flummoxed by it since whatever he was planning was already past...... Does anyone else remember this scene?
Also, Diane's clothes....... she has 2 distinct outfits in my recollection, the one she wears to the prison and the one she wears to the morgue. However, throughout the show, we see her wearing them from one episode to the next.
Sure, its possible that she just didn't pack for as long as she ended up being away and had to re-wear some items. But I really don't get the feeling that this is the intended case.
Diane did have changes to her outfit right at the moment of getting the ALL : ) text.
I think her bracelets switched order. Maybe that could be interpreted as a hitch in the timelines.
Diane did have changes to her outfit right at the moment of getting the ALL : ) text.
I think her bracelets switched order. Maybe that could be interpreted as a hitch in the timelines.
Damn good catch.
It's a sickness. I see that now. I'm just glad for this support group.
It's a sickness. I see that now. I'm just glad for this support group.
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