Around the dinner table, the conversation was lively. Thank you but for now, the forum has been archived.
So if the charcoal men are a result of the atomic bomb..that would make sense that one would show up with the body of Major Briggs but what does this have to do with Bill Hastings?
I kept hoping that someone would mention a name, but that never occurred during the whole flashback. The thought I kept having was young Garland and Betty. Though I gotta say I'm not sure what to think about the flying frog. Is it a blessing or a curse? Was her penny lucky, and that's why the creature chose to be swallowed by her? Or maybe the girl was Sarah Palmer. That may be in line with the orb sent to Earth created by The Giant (???????).
It's official, they're the Woodsmen.
I kept hoping that someone would mention a name, but that never occurred during the whole flashback. The thought I kept having was young Garland and Betty. Though I gotta say I'm not sure what to think about the flying frog. Is it a blessing or a curse? Was her penny lucky, and that's why the creature chose to be swallowed by her? Or maybe the girl was Sarah Palmer. That may be in line with the orb sent to Earth created by The Giant (???????).
I never thought of Sarah Palmer..but if the frog thingy was the inception of BOB.. it would make sense how she could see him. I am reeling from this episode. It's going to take a bit.
At a first glance, I first thought one of them, that "Gotta light"-one looked like Jerry Horne.
It did however looked like he smashed their skulls just like that mother/box creature did to the young couple in episode 1.
Woodsmen are like the log lady's husband who go to the extremes of the world-reality-laws, etc. looking for something, some solid atom(golden laura)(like being lost in the forest like Jerry Horne, the guy sent to the 'north pole', Hastings tying to get 'even'(looke here) with his wife with desire that persists after the sexual relations are ruined,'shes gone', lost highway, etc.)
What they find, like Cooper, is that in the extremes is only pain and suffering(garmanbozia) and violence, etc., exists, which is covered up by laws and the ordinary world; thus log lady's husband was burnt in a forest fire, some kind of destructive disturbance in nature. "Shes gone" sets off the explosion, the destruction of the atom, its inexestence, thus the inexistence of the ideal sweetheart is encountered, the failure of desire and laura, the destruction and inexistence of the golden-laura atom. The nuclear explosion is another version of a disturbance in the heart of nature-reality at its extremes, that reality is a void-nothing inside: a splitting or fusing of the solid atom destroys the atom, which tears reality apart and create a destructive force, moreover one utilized by people directly as control and destruction over the entire world.
The woodsmen were burnt by the explosion, the failure of reality-laws, etc., moreover they have discovered how to utilize this power in order to maintain control over reality, thus attracting people to the convenience store, changing the popular tunes, and fundamentally the laws and economy of desire for the young couple.....thus laura is born.... Woodsmen eat garmanbozia(from evil cooper, his blood), they want it, it is all there is existing at the 'core' in reality and thus they punish people and reality for being thus.....sado-masochistic tyrants that rule outside of law, like patriot act for example
Woodsmen follow laura's law, they chase her affection as a solid atom while knowing about a secret power(weakness of the giant-man laws) which they can use to obtain their affections-property, that power can be sustained by brutal enforcement outside the law even after it has historically died, that their corrupted dream must exist or the world will be punished for it(post 911 US); thus Mr. C can be brought back from the dead by woodsmen. They still follow laura, who is also on the same sado masochistic spiral, they are hiding from the inexistence and death of their dream and live on like zombies vampires that inflict pain on the world, blaming it for the basic inexistence of the atom and the ontological primacy of difference/flux, etc....they make the world their property, no matter what; they were burnt by the fire, and are going to use it.....time to start a fire....like laura's revenge eternal....
Indeed.
okay, I'm confused about the 'woodsmen' as most are calling them.
Isn't the location near New Mexico desert? Wouldn't woodsmen hang out near a forest? They look more like coal miners to me.
I wonder if there is any significance to the fact that the spirit (transparent) woodsmen we saw with Mr. C early, differ from the 'gotta light/head crusher' woodsmen (more solid looking)
Heh, anyone notice how quickly those spirits appeared? Ray couldn't even manage to get off a third shot. At first I thought they were dancing in celebration like munchkins over a dead witch!
okay, I'm confused about the 'woodsmen' as most are calling them.
Isn't the location near New Mexico desert? Wouldn't woodsmen hang out near a forest? They look more like coal miners to me.
I wonder if there is any significance to the fact that the spirit (transparent) woodsmen we saw with Mr. C early, differ from the 'gotta light/head crusher' woodsmen (more solid looking)
Heh, anyone notice how quickly those spirits appeared? Ray couldn't even manage to get off a third shot. At first I thought they were dancing in celebration like munchkins over a dead witch!
The one who speaks over the radio as credited as "Woodsman".
This also gives them a lovely little connection to the Log Lady (via her husband) and those long panning shots of Douglas Firs.
I think they are all related - the ones who revived Doppel-Dale, the, more solid, ones running around New Mexico and those unseen wandering around South Dakota. It may be that they can choose their level of transparency as one of their powers.
I have no idea why they put the radio listeners of New Mexico to sleep though or if they are working with the frog-roach creature(s).
So is the working theory that these "Woodsmen" are agents for "Mother"?
Wouldn't woodsmen hang out near a forest?
Hmmmm...
@Mark, that is perfect!
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