Not referring to Part 18, here, rather the end of Part 17, where Cooper picks up Laura on the night she was supposed to die, takes her by the hand, and walks her through the woods. He says he's taking her home, and I guess we're supposed to get all warm & fuzzy before she's abruptly taken away (complete with scream).
If Cooper had returned her home that night, wouldn't there still be the issue of Leland Palmer/BOB, and Sarah Palmer being... well, Sarah Palmer? I mean, the Palmer household was not a happy one (in fact, it was quite dangerous).
Also, returning Laura home that night would have likely just delayed the inevitable, right? Unless Cooper was prepared to do something then and there about Leland/BOB, then Laura likely would have just died another night. Heck, Maddy shows up later on and gets killed, too.
So... what sort of situation was Cooper leading Laura back to that night?
Not referring to Part 18, here, rather the end of Part 17, where Cooper picks up Laura on the night she was supposed to die, takes her by the hand, and walks her through the woods. He says he's taking her home, and I guess we're supposed to get all warm & fuzzy before she's abruptly taken away (complete with scream).
If Cooper had returned her home that night, wouldn't there still be the issue of Leland Palmer/BOB, and Sarah Palmer being... well, Sarah Palmer? I mean, the Palmer household was not a happy one.
Also, returning Laura home that night would have likely just delayed the inevitable, right? Unless Cooper was prepared to do something then and there about Leland/BOB, then Laura likely would have just died another night. Heck, Maddy shows up later on and gets killed, too.
So... what sort of situation was Cooper leading Laura back to that night?
I had that same question. Why would he return her to a house/life that brutalized her. And her death was inevitable, Bob was gonna do it the next night, or the night after that.
Then I thought maybe he meant the the White Lodge with the Giant when he said "home." Perhaps they were returning to the grove to head behind the curtain and take Laura to where she originated.
Not referring to Part 18, here, rather the end of Part 17, where Cooper picks up Laura on the night she was supposed to die, takes her by the hand, and walks her through the woods. He says he's taking her home, and I guess we're supposed to get all warm & fuzzy before she's abruptly taken away (complete with scream).
If Cooper had returned her home that night, wouldn't there still be the issue of Leland Palmer/BOB, and Sarah Palmer being... well, Sarah Palmer? I mean, the Palmer household was not a happy one.
Also, returning Laura home that night would have likely just delayed the inevitable, right? Unless Cooper was prepared to do something then and there about Leland/BOB, then Laura likely would have just died another night. Heck, Maddy shows up later on and gets killed, too.
So... what sort of situation was Cooper leading Laura back to that night?
I had that same question. Why would he return her to a house/life that brutalized her. And her death was inevitable, Bob was gonna do it the next night, or the night after that.
Then I thought maybe he meant the the White Lodge with the Giant when he said "home." Perhaps they were returning to the grove to head behind the curtain and take Laura to where she originated.
Oh, I like that idea! Let's just go with that. 🙂
Yep, but Cooper has previous with not thinking things through well. It's become his trademark.
Maybe he had some big idea of confronting Leland and defeating Bob, but seeing as he was already slippy in the head by the time he met Laura, I doubt it.
Honestly, the guy is a bit of a numpty.
Not referring to Part 18, here, rather the end of Part 17, where Cooper picks up Laura on the night she was supposed to die, takes her by the hand, and walks her through the woods. He says he's taking her home, and I guess we're supposed to get all warm & fuzzy before she's abruptly taken away (complete with scream).
If Cooper had returned her home that night, wouldn't there still be the issue of Leland Palmer/BOB, and Sarah Palmer being... well, Sarah Palmer? I mean, the Palmer household was not a happy one (in fact, it was quite dangerous).
Also, returning Laura home that night would have likely just delayed the inevitable, right? Unless Cooper was prepared to do something then and there about Leland/BOB, then Laura likely would have just died another night. Heck, Maddy shows up later on and gets killed, too.
So... what sort of situation was Cooper leading Laura back to that night?
He was leading her to the portal to the white lodge. Perhaps to bring her to the future (present day in the show), or to meet the Giant and learn of BOB/Mother possessing her parents? But that's where he was leading her. Also, we hear the record skipping there. Which we hear in the first scene of episode 1 in the white lodge. Leads me to believe Coops meeting with the Giant in 1 actually takes place after he loses Laura in the woods in 17.
Yes, I suppose Numpty is a good word for him.
But I didn't see him being "slippy in the head" quite yet. Examples?
Edit: not a record skip, but the and last groove on the record is the sound. WhichI think signifies the Möbius strip/restarting of the loop
I dunno, but the answer seems to lie in his purpose --why did he want to save her? Why was it so important that he was willing to alter history for her? It has to involve something beyond simple caring. That's why I don't believe it was his idea. Someone else mentioned it was to keep that ring off her finger when she finally DID die, but Mike may have caught up with her anywhere when Bob was after her. Earlier we saw Cooper telling Laura not to take the ring, as though it was vital that she avoid transport to the lodge. She was supposed to stay alive on earth for some climactic event in which she would be "The one ". Maybe Coop could have found a safe house for her. Beats me.
I think a related question is how did he know about any of the things he was supposed to do after he woke up. Why did he know Sheriff Truman (but Frank, not Harry?) was going to have his room key. Why did he know that was going to open the door. Why did he know where he was supposed to take Laura in the woods? Why did he have so much assurance right up to the point where he leaves the motel after his night with Diane/Linda?
This is either dream logic, where you know all the things even though you don't, or he has had more conversations with the Fireman or Mike than we know about.
I think a related question is how did he know about any of the things he was supposed to do after he woke up. Why did he know Sheriff Truman (but Frank, not Harry?) was going to have his room key. Why did he know that was going to open the door. Why did he know where he was supposed to take Laura in the woods? Why did he have so much assurance right up to the point where he leaves the motel after his night with Diane/Linda?
This is either dream logic, where you know all the things even though you don't, or he has had more conversations with the Fireman or Mike than we know about.
I think it's because it's a loop, which explains Jeffries use of the Möbius strip and the dot on it moving depending where Coop wanted to go. This isn't the first time he's had to go through most of this, and that's why the Giant isn't giving him new info, but telling him to remember specific things. Whichever manifestation of Laura he finds isn't what matters, but it's her spirit that does because it was created to oppose mother, which is why he brings her to the Palmer residence, where I think we have to believe Mother/Judy/(Chalfont?) is possessing Sarah.
Will Laura ever get any peace? What did this poor girl to the universe to deserve multiple lifetimes worth of garmonbozia?
I think it's because it's a loop, which explains Jeffries use of the Möbius strip and the dot on it moving depending where Coop wanted to go.
I've seen others refer to this as a Mobius strip but it really doesn't look like a Mobius strip. Any closed curve will give a loop. I think it is just an 8 or maybe an infinity sign.
Even if it's an infinity symbol or an 8, it makes the same point. Lynch even said, "keep your eye on the donut, not the hole." And that makes sense too.
Yep, but Cooper has previous with not thinking things through well. It's become his trademark.
Maybe he had some big idea of confronting Leland and defeating Bob, but seeing as he was already slippy in the head by the time he met Laura, I doubt it.
Honestly, the guy is a bit of a numpty.
Yes. Kind of like me fantasizing that I could have saved John Lennon if I had gotten my 5yo ass to NYC before he made it back to his apartment. Or could have kept Kirsty MacColl out of the water that day. Or could have let Bowie know when his cancer may have been treatable. We're all a little numpty Coop.
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