I would like to add on to the multitudes of theories on this forum. First things first, this has probably already been thought of before, but this is how I make sense of it. I will not claim these theories as mine, except for this overarching one that may connect them. There are holes in it that I'd like to be discussed and hopefully resolved.
1. The Fireman and Dido send a Laura Tulpa to an alternate Odessa, Texas aka, the one in an ALTERNATE timeline/dimension, in episode 8, to balance every event in the season. (If you look closely at the end of the scene you can see the orb hover over Texas before it fades to black.) This scene happens at the same time as the birth of Bob. This is before everything. This scene is the very beginning of the entire Twin Peaks story.The Laura orb they send is Carrie Page/the tulpa, to set up and resolve the rest of the story. Laura is the only thing that can stop Judy because of the doppelganger universe implosion theory (read more below).
2. Dale and Diane travel to the alternate dimension that the Fireman already had planned out (430). They do the sex magick ritual touched upon in TSHOTP to bring Judy into this new dimension where Laura was sent to be safe from Bob and Judy. (I do believe Laura is the stone and the two birds are Judy and the alternate timeline/dimension. Aka the destruction of said timeline/dimension thus destroying Judy together.) Episode 17 was simply the reversal of her death in the original timeline (in which our beloved Cooper still exists by the way)(is it future or is it past)
3. Once Judy enters the new timeline, everything gets changed around. Judy now has sensed Laura and has implanted her presence in her life and this new reality. (Dead guy in living room, white horse on mantel, a missing "him," working in HER diner, etc.) This is why Dale and Diane become Richard and Linda. This is also why the motel changes when Richard leaves it, as well as his car. This could also be why Laura is now Carrie. It's Judy's way of making sure they don't remember their identities so they can't complete their mission of destroying her. However, the Fireman was knowing of this and told Dale ahead of time everything he needed to know and do to succeed; basically to remind Dale after Judy changed everything to stop them.
4. Judy's Diner is, for all intensive purposes, the ultimate hunting ground. Her domain. Her lair. There are horseshoes and pictures of horses on the walls. (Regarding the theory that Judy is tied to the horse) The entire diner is empty, except for an old man and an old lady. (Possibly the Chalfonts?) and they seem to be watching and questioning who Dale is. Possibly sending Judy a message that something is wrong. That Judy's plan of switching their identities might not have worked. (Thanks to the Fireman's reminder). The cowboys are probably just guards and are there to do Judy's bidding. Too bad they can't outsmart Coop. Why he puts the guns in the fryer I will never know.
5. While Richard and Carrie are driving, they see a car pass by and then they get followed by a car. This is Judy! She is keeping an eye on them. She is monitoring what is happening. When they stop at the gas station, no cars are around. As soon as they go to leave the gas station. 3 or 4 cars drive by. Judy is moving with them. Watching them. She is trying to devise a new plan. Which she ultimately does.
6. The Tremonds were placed there as a last resort by Judy. A last line of defense. It seems to have worked. Until Cooper utters "what year is this?" thinking he has failed. But this is when Carrie, who showed signs of remembering something throughout the time we know her, thinks back on the house and what year she might have remembered it from. Therefore awakening her memory of the traumatic teenage years of Laura Palmer. Her scream and remembering of her real life version cause Judy and the alternate dimension to implode. I think this is related to that one theory that when you encounter/are aware of your doppelganger/tulpa it causes a rip in time and the/a universe can explode idk they explained it in Back to the Future quite well. (thank you doc brown) This is why Laura is the only thing that can defeat Judy. Because of her proximity to Judy in the real world being the ultimate source of garmonbozia, therfore the tulpa was made and sent to destroy the dimension/timeline because that's the only true way to defeat Judy. The Fireman saw all this ahead of time with his unbelievable foresight. Basically: The destruction of a timeline/dimension/universe in which Judy resides is the only way to truly destroy her as she exists as an entity that can travel between them but only exists in one at a time.
A few questions:
1. What is the true role of the Cowboys?
2. For this theory to work one has to trust that Carrie lived a normal life up until the point Judy was brought in by the ritual. And it shifted the reality to make it seem like she had more problems leading up to that moment. It's a timeline change thing that makes sense imo.
3. Why does Richard place the guns in oil? Seriously why?
4. Why does Diane see a copy of herself before her and Dale do the ritual?
5. How does the Fireman know Judy would change their names to Richard and Linda, but not Laura to Carrie? (Unless the Fireman changed their names in order to stay hidden from Judy!?! But Judy still finds them anyways so idk?
-Does Judy know that Carrie is Laura?? Did Laura keep her name until Judy came into this timeline? Or was she always known as Carrie in this timeline?
6. What does Laura whisper in Dale's ear, and why are we shown this after the implosion of the other timeline?
Poke holes if you can. This is how I make sense of it. Hope I can find answers to the questions. (Obviously with Lynch there are no solid ones, but man it feels good to come close like this. Whatever "close" may be, is just a perception of the detective.)
TL;DR:
The Fireman's plan was set all along.
Part 17 - Save Laura and Destroy Bob
Part 18 - Destroy Judy
The theory of encountering/being aware of your doppelgänger causes a timeline/dimension/universe to implode is why Carrie Page needed to remember she was Laura Palmer in another timeline in order to destroy Judy, a presence that can only exist in one timeline at once and can only be destroyed by the timeline imploding.
Carrie Page = One stone
Judy and Alternate Timeline = Two Birds
I agree with most of this but I still think that the 2 birds with one stone reference relates to killing Judy and saving Laura and the stone to do this is Carrie by remembering who she really is.
Why would Carrie remember something that Laura did not witness? Laura Palmer was not alive in Twin Peaks when her mother called out 'Laura'. Sarah called out on the morning of the discovery of the body wrapped in plastic. Laura was already dead at this point.
Re: Tulpa Implosion theory. Red haired Diane encountered herself outside the motel. The universe did not implode because of this encounter.
Why would Carrie remember something that Laura did not witness? Laura Palmer was not alive in Twin Peaks when her mother called out 'Laura'. Sarah called out on the morning of the discovery of the body wrapped in plastic. Laura was already dead at this point.
Yes it is true that Laura wouldn't have heard that in the old time line but she would probably still remember her mother's voice and her name before she was transported to this new dimension either by Judy or the Fireman after Cooper had saved her from dying. Through that recognition of her mother's voice and her name she screamed and thus is saved and Judy is destroyed.
Why would Carrie remember something that Laura did not witness? Laura Palmer was not alive in Twin Peaks when her mother called out 'Laura'. Sarah called out on the morning of the discovery of the body wrapped in plastic. Laura was already dead at this point.
you make a good point. Then why did the Fireman and Dido create and send a Laura orb to Odessa?
Re: Tulpa Implosion theory. Red haired Diane encountered herself outside the motel. The universe did not implode because of this encounter.
It's weird though because the double is wearing the exact same clothes. But yeah this shoots holes in my theory. Darn. I'm wondering what the significance of her seeing herself outside herself is though...
I was wondering whether it wasn't the opposite as far as tulpas and originals go. The Laura Palmer we thought we knew was the tulpa (notice how tulpas in the story often go willingly to their death once they discover they're not who they thought they were?). Then that would make Carrie Page the original "ONE." Who really knows though?
Ok so lets get down to business, all of the theories presented are right in some ways and they are wrong in most ways. David Lynch is like a master craftsmen, cabinet maker...he builds this amazing piece of furniture but doesn't put a finish on it, because if he did, only the people who liked that 1 finish would buy it. Instead, because he is also a marketing genius who realizes that it would sell so much better if he didn't put a finish on it, he left it UNFINISHED. That way anyone who bought (or bought into) the cabinet could put the finish on it that THEY wanted instead. Some will be a light wood, some a dark wood, some red paint, some with multi colored drawers etc. His genius is that we are all still talking about the finish we put onto his cabinet...his downfall is that no one was able to buy a finished product and call it a LYNCH cabinet. This was his best parlor trick, convincing all of you to finish the ending and resolve the series to your liking. Some of us still find it haunting that it is an open ended question with too many answers, all of which can be made to fit.
Yet none of these answers are considered as his "finish."
Congrats on your recent collaboration with David Lynch, sorry you didn't get film credit or payment.
Jack
Ok so lets get down to business, all of the theories presented are right in some ways and they are wrong in most ways. David Lynch is like a master craftsmen, cabinet maker...he builds this amazing piece of furniture but doesn't put a finish on it, because if he did, only the people who liked that 1 finish would buy it. Instead, because he is also a marketing genius who realizes that it would sell so much better if he didn't put a finish on it, he left it UNFINISHED. That way anyone who bought (or bought into) the cabinet could put the finish on it that THEY wanted instead. Some will be a light wood, some a dark wood, some red paint, some with multi colored drawers etc. His genius is that we are all still talking about the finish we put onto his cabinet...his downfall is that no one was able to buy a finished product and call it a LYNCH cabinet. This was his best parlor trick, convincing all of you to finish the ending and resolve the series to your liking. Some of us still find it haunting that it is an open ended question with too many answers, all of which can be made to fit.
Yet none of these answers are considered as his "finish."
Congrats on your recent collaboration with David Lynch, sorry you didn't get film credit or payment.
Jack
I like this cabinet maker theory and it totally explains why Josie is in the wooden knob
Hi Garmonbozia Addict
Bravo! This is amazing. I like what you're putting out there, I haven't heard a lot of your bullet points before. Namely the episode 8 sending of Carrie to Odessa. This is pivotal in my perspective.
Now let's dissect.
You totally had me until #6. I don't understand how if Carrie Page was created as a separate/decoy(?) entity how she would be able to remember she is Laura. In this theory she never was Laura she only looks like her.
I like all the foresight & power you're giving the fireman. I also still want to and do believe that the Fireman is Margaret Lantermans deceased husband. I know this doesn't really align with the 1940's timeline, I just want it to be so.
I think the guns in the oil was entirely stylistic but for sake of creating this story could it have anything to do with the smell of burning oil creating a lodge opening?
Hi Garmonbozia Addict
Bravo! This is amazing. I like what you're putting out there, I haven't heard a lot of your bullet points before. Namely the episode 8 sending of Carrie to Odessa. This is pivotal in my perspective.
Now let's dissect.
You totally had me until #6. I don't understand how if Carrie Page was created as a separate/decoy(?) entity how she would be able to remember she is Laura. In this theory she never was Laura she only looks like her.
I like all the foresight & power you're giving the fireman. I also still want to and do believe that the Fireman is Margaret Lantermans deceased husband. I know this doesn't really align with the 1940's timeline, I just want it to be so.
I think the guns in the oil was entirely stylistic but for sake of creating this story could it have anything to do with the smell of burning oil creating a lodge opening?
I do find it odd that the giant is named Fireman. What is the actual point in that? I think he has to be her husband? Maybe not. But his name doesn't make sense otherwise. Also I do agree that David Lynch is not fully answering everything, but some things have to make sense or it would all be stupid.
So why is he called Fireman?
Hi Garmonbozia Addict
Bravo! This is amazing. I like what you're putting out there, I haven't heard a lot of your bullet points before. Namely the episode 8 sending of Carrie to Odessa. This is pivotal in my perspective.
Now let's dissect.
You totally had me until #6. I don't understand how if Carrie Page was created as a separate/decoy(?) entity how she would be able to remember she is Laura. In this theory she never was Laura she only looks like her.
I like all the foresight & power you're giving the fireman. I also still want to and do believe that the Fireman is Margaret Lantermans deceased husband. I know this doesn't really align with the 1940's timeline, I just want it to be so.
I think the guns in the oil was entirely stylistic but for sake of creating this story could it have anything to do with the smell of burning oil creating a lodge opening?
I do find it odd that the giant is named Fireman. What is the actual point in that? I think he has to be her husband? Maybe not. But his name doesn't make sense otherwise. Also I do agree that David Lynch is not fully answering everything, but some things have to make sense or it would all be stupid.
So why is he called Fireman?
He puts out fires.
Yeah he puts out fires and fire is kind of an ongoing theme, thus Fire Walk With Me.
Hi Garmonbozia Addict
Bravo! This is amazing. I like what you're putting out there, I haven't heard a lot of your bullet points before. Namely the episode 8 sending of Carrie to Odessa. This is pivotal in my perspective.
Now let's dissect.
You totally had me until #6. I don't understand how if Carrie Page was created as a separate/decoy(?) entity how she would be able to remember she is Laura. In this theory she never was Laura she only looks like her.
I like all the foresight & power you're giving the fireman. I also still want to and do believe that the Fireman is Margaret Lantermans deceased husband. I know this doesn't really align with the 1940's timeline, I just want it to be so.
I think the guns in the oil was entirely stylistic but for sake of creating this story could it have anything to do with the smell of burning oil creating a lodge opening?
I do find it odd that the giant is named Fireman. What is the actual point in that? I think he has to be her husband? Maybe not. But his name doesn't make sense otherwise. Also I do agree that David Lynch is not fully answering everything, but some things have to make sense or it would all be stupid.
So why is he called Fireman?
The reason he is called the Fireman is because he puts out fires i.e. dangerous things that could destroy people such as Bob, Judy. That is why he created the Laura orb to combat the threat of Bob and Judy in the Twin Peaks universe. This is why he tells people things such as Freddie, Cooper, Andy so that they know what to do when the time is right to defeat Bob and Judy.
Fire walk with