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The dead guy at Carrie's place is alleged to be the Loan Shark Janey-E met

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(@arcadesonfire)
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The nose looks different to me, but it--along with the earlobes--could be done with makeup. 

I've been wanting to say about Carrie shooting a guy and asking an FBI agent, "did you find him":

It seems to me that she's taking care of herself in a way. When I first watched Season 1 three years back, I was most tormented in scenes with Leo and Shelly. I kept wanting Shelly to call the police!! Here, we see Carrie defending herself with deadly force against a presumed bad man, and apparently she has also reached out to law enforcement for help. She can kinda take care of herself and has the frame of mind to seek help, unlike the situations Laura, Ronnette, and Shelly were in.

We also saw Sarah Palmer clearly able to defend herself and get revenge against the world full of truckers. So I've been kicking around this thought that another mistake on Cooper's part--or not really a mistake, but him being too "perfect" (in Audrey's words)--was him trying to save someone who could better take care of herself here, 25 years later. This is in addition to trying to return things to how they were as though Laura's trauma could be erased.

Obviously, there are lots of different "mistakes" and takes we can read into the ending. Carrie and Sarah defending themselves better than when they were prey to Leland/Bob is just one thought to kick around.

 

EDIT: This might play into how Janey-E stood up for herself to two dangerous loan sharks. 

 
Posted : 29/09/2017 11:49 am
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If they went to the trouble to make up his earlobes so that they are no longer detached than clearly this character is not supposed to have a relation to the loan shark. It was a fun theory but I believe we've closed it.

 
Posted : 29/09/2017 1:36 pm
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Posted by: Colin Basterfield

Hi,

Apologies if this has already been said here, but there was a test with a picture of the dead guy at Carrie's place next to some pics of the actor that played the loan shark who met Janey-E in the park. It sure looks like him!

If this is true, the implications are far reaching to say the least. For example, would it be a stretch to assume that Carrie's question to Cooper on her doorstep, 'Did you find him?' could be a reference to finding Dougie who owed money? That said, wouldn't Carrie have seen the likeness to Dougie in Cooper, unless she hadn't met him.

Anyone else seen this? Thoughts?

Took some time out from here. Started a new job, so a little distracted.

I will say, I watched a couple of episodes week before last and they are so rich. I miss that world...

I really want this to be true so I'm just going to ignore any dissenting opinions or evidence.  🙂

 
Posted : 29/09/2017 2:16 pm
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As for Cooper leaving the body there, I took it to mean he was so deadest on his current "god-given" mission that he just had to turn off his FBI instincts. 

After seeing and stewing over the ending, realizing that this was not exactly our beloved Dale Cooper,  I wonder if this is another sign of flawed character: This Richard Coop was so deadest on his mission that he broke MANY bureau rules and never described to Carrie what he wanted to do for her. He was kinda doing it for himself. (Remember how back in Season 2, Good Cooper didn't want to break bureau rule about romance with a case subject.)

If this idea of Richard Coop being obsessed with his mission and doing it for himself holds water, it could be Lynch reflecting on a potential flaw of an artist doing it for himself, like he did with this season. Could be could be could be. Or could be im reading way too much into it. 

 
Posted : 29/09/2017 3:26 pm
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Posted by: Jesse Newkirk

 

If this idea of Richard Coop being obsessed with his mission and doing it for himself holds water, it could be Lynch reflecting on a potential flaw of an artist doing it for himself, like he did with this season. Could be could be could be. Or could be im reading way too much into it. 

I love this idea too and have decided it is true!

 
Posted : 29/09/2017 3:45 pm
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Posted by: dopplearb

If they went to the trouble to make up his earlobes so that they are no longer detached than clearly this character is not supposed to have a relation to the loan shark. It was a fun theory but I believe we've closed it.

Quoted for agreement.  Not the same guy.

 
Posted : 29/09/2017 5:44 pm
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Posted by: Brandy Fisher
Posted by: Jesse Newkirk

 

If this idea of Richard Coop being obsessed with his mission and doing it for himself holds water, it could be Lynch reflecting on a potential flaw of an artist doing it for himself, like he did with this season. Could be could be could be. Or could be im reading way too much into it. 

I love this idea too and have decided it is true!

I still think it's likely true, but I just endeavored into the Blood Sugar Sex Magic thread, and it really threw a wrench into my thinking! Bah!!

 
Posted : 29/09/2017 6:21 pm
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Posted by: dopplearb
Posted by: CommanderEnigma

FWIW Mark Frost retweeted a post pointing this out. He posts about many things on Twitter but is pretty selective about what he posts about when it comes to Twin Peaks, so if it's not a confirmation it's pretty close.

Can you screenshot Mark Frost post for those of us who don't use Twitter? Thanks!

Here you go, not sure what it means. It hard to explain why he would retweet something like that if it weren't true.

 
Posted : 29/09/2017 8:07 pm
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Posted by: CommanderEnigma
Posted by: dopplearb
Posted by: CommanderEnigma

FWIW Mark Frost retweeted a post pointing this out. He posts about many things on Twitter but is pretty selective about what he posts about when it comes to Twin Peaks, so if it's not a confirmation it's pretty close.

Can you screenshot Mark Frost post for those of us who don't use Twitter? Thanks!

Here you go, not sure what it means. It hard to explain why he would retweet something like that if it weren't true.

For the same reasons Lynch won't give a straight answer to anything.  It's not the same guy.

 
Posted : 29/09/2017 8:29 pm
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Well that closes the case. Who needs Mark Frost when you've got an authority like SamXTherapy!

 
Posted : 29/09/2017 9:14 pm
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Posted by: SamXTherapy
Posted by: CommanderEnigma
Posted by: dopplearb
Posted by: CommanderEnigma

FWIW Mark Frost retweeted a post pointing this out. He posts about many things on Twitter but is pretty selective about what he posts about when it comes to Twin Peaks, so if it's not a confirmation it's pretty close.

Can you screenshot Mark Frost post for those of us who don't use Twitter? Thanks!

Here you go, not sure what it means. It hard to explain why he would retweet something like that if it weren't true.

For the same reasons Lynch won't give a straight answer to anything.  It's not the same guy.

Why you gotta dash all my hopes and dreams lime that?

 
Posted : 29/09/2017 9:17 pm
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@ Commander Enigma - Go boil yer head and lose the attitude, bucko.

@ Brandy - That's the kind of guy I am.

 
Posted : 29/09/2017 9:31 pm
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Posted by: SamXTherapy

@ Commander Enigma - Go boil yer head and lose the attitude, bucko.

@ Brandy - That's the kind of guy I am.

Shall I aspire to your attitude bud? Chest thumping internet fugazis wilt pretty fast if they turn their scrutiny to a mirror.

Anyway dude, nice talk, but it's over.

 
Posted : 29/09/2017 10:47 pm
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I'm surprised people can be so certain about the earlobes, from such poor quality images?

Looking at the actor's current IMDb profile, he looks a bit more like the dead man.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1237235/

Anyways, I don't see it as hugely important in the big picture, even if it was the same actor.

 
Posted : 30/09/2017 7:41 am
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Posted by: dopplearb

If they went to the trouble to make up his earlobes so that they are no longer detached than clearly this character is not supposed to have a relation to the loan shark. It was a fun theory but I believe we've closed it.

You mean like casting an Asian actress to disguise a blonde haired Caucasian woman? ? (I know what you're getting at, but I still thought it was funny). 

 
Posted : 30/09/2017 9:05 am
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