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Temporal non-linearity and parallelism

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Given the demonstrated temporal non-linearity (i.e., time does not progress uniformly into the future from episode to episode, nor even within each episode) and parallelism (e.g. the attack of the Experiment on Sam and Tracey, mirrored by Naido's encounter with Cooper in the Purple Room: http://welcometotwinpeaks.com/theories/glass-box-dale-cooper-naido-footage-synchronized/ ), I think that while we can say that we've now seen all that Lynch/Frost intended to show us, we can't be sure that we've fully understood either its temporal order or significance. Repeat viewings may yet reveal further time-shifts and doublings of events that shed further light on what we all just saw! 

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 10:44 pm
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Given the demonstrated temporal non-linearity (i.e., time does not progress uniformly into the future from episode to episode, nor even within each episode) and parallelism (e.g. the attack of the Experiment on Sam and Tracey, mirrored by Naido's encounter with Cooper in the Purple Room: http://welcometotwinpeaks.com/theories/glass-box-dale-cooper-naido-footage-synchronized/ ), I think that while we can say that we've now seen all that Lynch/Frost intended to show us, we can't be sure that we've fully understood either its temporal order or significance. Repeat viewings may yet reveal further time-shifts and doublings of events that shed further light on what we all just saw! 

That video shows how fucking brilliantly engineered and mapped this show is. Imagine writing/mapping it and then disassociating all of its parts to make them nearly unintelligible to the average viewer? Insane.

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 10:59 pm
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Speaking of parallelism, I think there simply MUST be a linkage between the floating, superimposed face of Laura Palmer that each episode begins with, and that of Dale Cooper in ep. 17 (not to mention, the floating face of Major Briggs at various points). I'm not at all sure what it means, though. If we accept the dream theory, that parts or all of this series or of TP as a whole is the dream of Laura Palmer, and that her superimposed face at the start of each episode indicates this, then does that mean that things start being the dream of Agent Cooper at the point in ep. 17 where his face is superimposed? And perhaps persisting through the last episode, which ends with his face (and the whispering Laura Palmer) during the credits? (If so, I haven't even begun to figure out how that works, and I think I'd find it profoundly unsatisfying if true; but still the parallelism is there, and so I point it out.)

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 11:18 pm
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Speaking of parallelism, I think there simply MUST be a linkage between the floating, superimposed face of Laura Palmer that each episode begins with, and that of Dale Cooper in ep. 17 (not to mention, the floating face of Major Briggs at various points). I'm not at all sure what it means, though. If we accept the dream theory, that parts or all of this series or of TP as a whole is the dream of Laura Palmer, and that her superimposed face at the start of each episode indicates this, then does that mean that things start being the dream of Agent Cooper at the point in ep. 17 where his face is superimposed? And perhaps persisting through the last episode, which ends with his face (and the whispering Laura Palmer) during the credits? (If so, I haven't even begun to figure out how that works, and I think I'd find it profoundly unsatisfying if true; but still the parallelism is there, and so I point it out.)

Inexplicably, I thought of the opening montage of Elephant Man, where the elephants are seen superimposed, trampling over Merrick's mother (I took this literally when I watched it as a kid):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHswu1Ad_wI ( see 00:00:40) - a metaphorical representation of her laboring John Merrick. The sounds you see in the segment and the superimposition is definitely a Lynchian technique.

Cooper is derailed from the "heroic reality" of saving the TP Sheriff station (actually attributed to Lucy and Freddie) by seeing Naido (and correlating her with Diane?), and the superimposition occurs, as if he's suddenly existing in two planes. One in the station and one still dismantled by Diane/Naido.

In FWWM, when young Laura leans into him in the Lodge (when Cooper is 25 years her senior), it was revealed from the S1 dream sequence that she whispers, "It was my father" or something of the sort. 

In S3, Laura is suddenly and significantly older when she leans into Cooper, different hairstyle, etc. And it's not revealed what was said. Cinematic liberty? Or different situation altogether? 

Some interesting threads on here stating that it is Laura's dream, and she is awakened from the dream on the morning of her death by the sound of her mother's distorted voice calling her (as we see in S1 pilot when she races down the stairs). But some others on here are showing still frames of the Mother or experiment in one of the Palmer windows in the seconds before the whisper, which is causing Carrie/Laura to scream.

So many "missing pieces".

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 11:47 pm
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Posted by: WowBobWow

Speaking of parallelism, I think there simply MUST be a linkage between the floating, superimposed face of Laura Palmer that each episode begins with, and that of Dale Cooper in ep. 17 (not to mention, the floating face of Major Briggs at various points). I'm not at all sure what it means, though. If we accept the dream theory, that parts or all of this series or of TP as a whole is the dream of Laura Palmer, and that her superimposed face at the start of each episode indicates this, then does that mean that things start being the dream of Agent Cooper at the point in ep. 17 where his face is superimposed? And perhaps persisting through the last episode, which ends with his face (and the whispering Laura Palmer) during the credits? (If so, I haven't even begun to figure out how that works, and I think I'd find it profoundly unsatisfying if true; but still the parallelism is there, and so I point it out.)

Sounds like a good explanation. The line "We all live inside a dream" is one of the show's catch-phrases, and Cooper said it to most of TP characters just before he and Diane left for their final adventure to the "alternate universe" to search for Carrie/Laura.

Audrey's story this season also existed in her dream as well, in which she finally woke up at the end of Episode 16.

The stories involving other TP characters (e.g., Ed's happy ending with Norma, Becky and Steve Burnett's saga, etc) might have existed in their respective character's dreams as well...

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 11:52 pm
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From the Part 1/2 discussion:

http://welcometotwinpeaks.com/discuss/twin-peaks-part-1-2/lauras-wisper/

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 11:56 pm
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