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Posted by: Lawrence Charap
Posted by: Michele B Witkowski

the ending was .. I'm driving to your house and punching dead in the face.. that's how angry I am I am right now .. that sucked .. let's get into why that sucked ..

first off, as much as I hated Annie .. and I hated Annie .. not even a question to where the hell she is?? But your running off to have sex with Diane??

and please someone explain Richard and Linda to me cause I just did not get it at all..

sorry but no season 4 for me.. I'm good 

I hate to say this, but... respectfully... what, exactly, did you expect? This ending was just like the rest of the season: some answers, but a lot of new puzzles. I don't understand people being angry that the show ended the way the rest of the show has gone on. There is no closure in Lynch-world. And we'd be disappointed if there were.

About your specific questions, I think it's pretty clear that Annie was rescued by Coop at the end of S2 and got the hell out of TP. (I don't really care what happened to her, honestly, and I don't think Lynch does either.) Richard/Linda are somehow the alternate-universe names for Coop and Diane, as explained by the Giant in Ep 1. I think we're all still trying to figure it out.

What I expected was Twin Peaks not Muholland Drive combined with Inland Empire nonsense .. to me this wasn't Twin Peaks .. yes at times I got glimpses of TP but to me this was MD that was combined with that Inland Empire using Twin Peak characters .. I hated Annie character but he still risked his life for Annie .. but no he was in love with Diane .. or not whatever .. I like Lynch but this is not how I saw this ending .. that the last 20 min of the show was spent driving .. they can keep season 4 I won't be watching 

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 9:39 am
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It shouldn't matter how you saw it or not.

It's not about you or anyone having his/her wishes fullfilled.

It's about art, masterpieces like Inland empire that are still pretty much obscure to today's viewers, misunderstood, the way people wouldn't recognise what Cézanne was doing with his paintings back then, while pretty much everybody understands them now.

It's not even about TV formats, the number of seasons, cliffhangers, etc. All of this does not matter.

It's not even about the plot.

It's about what it says, what it shows, and that was brilliant.

 

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 9:44 am
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I agree with the last poster. Lynch films are an experience. You either ride it and let it take you where it wants, or you start demanding it takes you in a certain direction.
You go with the latter, you're guaranteed to be annoyed.

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 9:48 am
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Exactly. You can tell by the OP's questions, I.E, focusing on Annie, that they were definitely expecting a conventional story that revealed things.
I'll tell you what happened to Annie...
She never existed. Cooper changed history and she either never existed or never came to Twin Peaks. 
Plus, with everything Cooper has learned over the years, Annie is pretty obsolete now.

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 9:53 am
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I actually thought it was superb, as well as offering the most WTF moment in television history. 

They could have ended it after ep 17 but instead, they opened the gates to so many more questions and made me question just about everything I believed in Twin Peaks!

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 9:56 am
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Annie did not exist either in Mark Frost's book

Makes me wonder what his Final Dossier will be like.

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 10:12 am
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I think there was enough stuff 'wrapped up' in Ep 17.   Cooper changed history/jumped parallels - it was never going to end up with a happy family reunion, was it?
I'm still a bit puzzled by the 'it's just not Twin Peaks' comments.  Who decides that??

Maybe the door is now open for filling in other bits of what happened, maybe not...

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 10:17 am
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I loved the episode. Don't take your subjective interpretation out on the rest of us. I wish this forum was full to the brim with intelligent and enlightening discussion, instead half of the threads are just people complaining. If it let you down, and if you hated the ending, and if you do not want anymore... then why are you still here? 

You are here because you are not let down. You are confused. The last two episodes were a clusterfuck of hard-to-digest allegories and secrets. Give it time. You'll come around. I'm confused too. But I love the confusion. It feeds my curiosity to re-watch these episodes until I fall asleep at my desk. 

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 10:20 am
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Posted by: Joshua Moulinie

Exactly. You can tell by the OP's questions, I.E, focusing on Annie, that they were definitely expecting a conventional story that revealed things.
I'll tell you what happened to Annie...
She never existed. Cooper changed history and she either never existed or never came to Twin Peaks. 
Plus, with everything Cooper has learned over the years, Annie is pretty obsolete now.

I've been castigated for saying this but - if Coop went back and changed time to where Laura never existed - what reason would he have ever had to be in TP in the first place - he would have never had his TP experiences nor have any memories of things that didn't happen

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 10:26 am
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Posted by: SomethingVague

I loved the episode. Don't take your subjective interpretation out on the rest of us. I wish this forum was full to the brim with intelligent and enlightening discussion, instead half of the threads are just people complaining. If it let you down, and if you hated the ending, and if you do not want anymore... then why are you still here? 

You are here because you are not let down. You are confused. The last two episodes were a clusterfuck of hard-to-digest allegories and secrets. Give it time. You'll come around. I'm confused too. But I love the confusion. It feeds my curiosity to re-watch these episodes until I fall asleep at my desk. 

Pardon us non-Mensa members.

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 10:29 am
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Posted by: SomethingVague

I loved the episode. Don't take your subjective interpretation out on the rest of us. I wish this forum was full to the brim with intelligent and enlightening discussion, instead half of the threads are just people complaining. If it let you down, and if you hated the ending, and if you do not want anymore... then why are you still here? 

You are here because you are not let down. You are confused. The last two episodes were a clusterfuck of hard-to-digest allegories and secrets. Give it time. You'll come around. I'm confused too. But I love the confusion. It feeds my curiosity to re-watch these episodes until I fall asleep at my desk. 

I think the show was and did exactly what is should ... illicited emotions out of the audience.  The gament of emotions from disappointment, confusion, surprise, fear, glee.... whether you liked it or not it made you think ....to question.  A rare thing indeed in the world of immediate gratification and mindless TV we see so much of today.  It did not go down how I would have liked..... and yes I was bit disappointed.  But the fact that I was able to watch two hours of TV and THINK my way thu it .... I loved.  And the fact we are having these discussions with so much emotion attached .... love or hate .... is a beautiful thing and I think the point.

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 10:30 am
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Posted by: Steve Moss

I've spent my day feeling numb and with a sense of grief. Twin Peaks is yrev powerful TV. Thanks to Lynch, Frost and all involved. 

Thank them here -

https://showtimeppv.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=131967

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 10:31 am
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Posted by: Lynn Watson

I think there was enough stuff 'wrapped up' in Ep 17.   Cooper changed history/jumped parallels - it was never going to end up with a happy family reunion, was it?
I'm still a bit puzzled by the 'it's just not Twin Peaks' comments.  Who decides that??

Maybe the door is now open for filling in other bits of what happened, maybe not...

 

This is what I find hilarious... It is David Lynch ffs, so what did people expect they were going to get for an ending?  It was never going to be what we wanted, be it an end, a resolution, a coherent storyline, and amazing or dull cliffhanger or another season.

It is Lynch and Frost that decide what Twin Peaks is or isn't, not us.  We are just the observer of the dream (of the dream).  Anything else is just Invitation To Love...

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 10:37 am
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I definetly can agree the Return was not a failure. I tuned in every Sunday. Looked forward to it all week. Had every emotion you could have watching it. So in that respect I believe it was a success. Did it end the way I wanted it to? No. But I'm not gonna say I hated a whole series because I didnt like the ending. I just hope Lynch will consider a continuation in some way. If not then it is what it is.

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 10:37 am
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'It's about the journey, not the destination.' Stephen King.

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 10:40 am
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