I was just thinking about the first scene again.
The way "coop" leaves that room with the fireman is like what happened to Dougie ..... head dissapears into black smoke......
Does anyone else think this is weird?
Look again, it's not similar.
https://youtu.be/-G-x_jfddis?t=129
Coop's dissolving effect is very unique to that scene. I used to think Laura's body (in plastic) disappearing is similar, but it's not exactly the same either. Laura is sort of smudged out, whereas Coop is "sliced" away.
Look again, it's not similar.
https://youtu.be/-G-x_jfddis?t=129
Coop's dissolving effect is very unique to that scene. I used to think Laura's body (in plastic) disappearing is similar, but it's not exactly the same either. Laura is sort of smudged out, whereas Coop is "sliced" away.
Oh yes. I thought it was smoke but it is as you say sliced
What strikes me as strange is that Coop says 'I understand.' The Fireman replies 'You are far away,' as if to say 'no, you don't, you are misunderstanding me.' And then Coop goes.
Why does Coop disappear? Does The Fireman send him away? Where to? Why? When he says Coop is far away, could he also mean that Coop is not actually in that room and is somewhere else vividly visualising this scene so that it feels he is actually there and doesn't realise he's not there? "We are like the dreamer who dreams and then lives in the dream..."
I just wish the Fireman had offered Cooper more detail so that we would know more.
What strikes me as strange is that Coop says 'I understand.' The Fireman replies 'You are far away,' as if to say 'no, you don't, you are misunderstanding me.' And then Coop goes.
Why does Coop disappear? Does The Fireman send him away? Where to? Why? When he says Coop is far away, could he also mean that Coop is not actually in that room and is somewhere else vividly visualising this scene so that it feels he is actually there and doesn't realise he's not there? "We are like the dreamer who dreams and then lives in the dream..."
Great questions!
I wonder about the "you are far away" quote, too. You could be right!
I just wish the Fireman had offered Cooper more detail so that we would know more.
I wish Coop had have asked more questions, too!
Obviously Lynch/Frost are aware of the lack of information we get and the frustration it causes. I felt like that scene where Cooper is at the door of Laura's (Carrie) house in Odessa and says something along the lines of "for reasons hard to explain, I believe your name is Laura and you live in a town called Twin Peaks...." is supposed to be comical. Did anyone else feel that way with that particular line? I remember being so frustrated with that part, as that was the perfect opportunity to tell us what the hell is going on, hahaha
By the time that scene happened I was already confused. My confusion only increased as Cooper & Laura went on their endless drive.
What strikes me as strange is that Coop says 'I understand.' The Fireman replies 'You are far away,' as if to say 'no, you don't, you are misunderstanding me.' And then Coop goes.
Why does Coop disappear? Does The Fireman send him away? Where to? Why? When he says Coop is far away, could he also mean that Coop is not actually in that room and is somewhere else vividly visualising this scene so that it feels he is actually there and doesn't realise he's not there? "We are like the dreamer who dreams and then lives in the dream..."
It all goes back to early scenes in Season 2, where the Fireman, then called Giant, talks to Cooper in his hotel room at the Great Northern. Cooper was on the floor after Josie shot him, and the Giant was trying to gain his trust. When Cooper asked the Giant where he came from, the Giant said the important issue was where Cooper HAD GONE. Decades later, we hear echoes of this in "you are far away."
So from early on in the series, it was strongly suggested that Cooper was not really where he was, and perhaps not even WHO we thought he was. What appeared to be Red room "dreams" were real lodge presences from the beginning. He may have been both gifted and damned, and had moved between the 2 worlds for a long time without necessarily remembering it all.
The conclusion of Season 3 calls into question much of what we assumed about Cooper earlier in the series. I would find it very difficult, even quite horrifying, to watch the Dale Cooper story lines in Seasons 1 and 2 again.
He leaves same way that Laura body dissapear.
There can be good link to this two. Because Cooper changed timeline, one of his existance dissapear. When we start to speak about different timelines there can be a lot of Coops and Mike with his "it is future or it is past" 🙂
So Coop took Laura to woods, what that mean ? She wasn't murdered and Dale Cooper have nothing to do in TP. Because he didn't go there, he never entered Black Lodge. But because I belive all this timelines are connected, he have memory of everything. That's for me real alternative to trial theory. Because there is sense for big head Coop saying "we live inside a dream". He can watch something from different timeline, that he experienced this, but it is no longer existance. The lights go off, but he is still there.
I also felt the "You are far away" was almost as to remind Cooper he's not there, therefore he vanishes. For many, the realization that you are dreaming, often signifies the end of the dream, and in some way the scene had a similar logic.
The way Cooper vanishes, is maybe to first indicate he's not "there" in the same way he is in the Red Room scenes, but also to differentiate him from other entities, like the Woodsmen, who simple fade in and out. As I've said above, I don't think it's exactly the same as Laura's body disappearing.
Many feel the scene is not chronologically quite there either (if that means anything). But all the other Fireman scenes appear to be positioned in relation to time so I wonder why this would be the exception. It is ambiguous, though... ("remember") Still, unless someone presents very good reasons, I continue to believe the scene happens before anything else.
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