In part 1, the Fireman tells Cooper to 'Listen to the sounds'. Then we hear the skipping phonograph sound. The Firemen tells Cooper 'It is in our house now'. We hear this sound again when Laura disappears walking through the woods with Cooper. If Laura is the one that the Fireman referred to, then this seems like the moment the Fireman rescued her and brought her to the house of the Fireman and Senorita Dido.
This is an interesting take. I've always leaned toward "it" being Black Lodge entities or other such evil entities (e.g. Experiment). He could've even been referring to when he grabbed Mr C and threw him in a cage. Not sure. Never crossed my mind that "it" could be Laura. Nice twist on things you've got going on. I'm not sold at the moment but am gonna have to ponder it a bit more, which is a good thing.
But she screams (not a nice thing) and Coop looks puzzled ......
But she screams (not a nice thing) and Coop looks puzzled ......
The scream and flapping sound seems to be the same scream as when she was pulled out of The Red Room. Perhaps the rescue also freed her from there.
It must feel so good to believe everything went OK but the fireman adds "it all cannot be said aloud now" after saying "it's in our house now."
So normally you'd relate them to each other, i cant talk aloud because the enemy is in our house now.
I think everything went as planned for the fireman and cooper but there is still way to go, the enemy is far from beaten.
But she screams (not a nice thing) and Coop looks puzzled ......
The scream and flapping sound seems to be the same scream as when she was pulled out of The Red Room. Perhaps the rescue also freed her from there.
This I do agree with and up until the finale I had two thoughts about Laura's forced removal from the Red Room: she was kidnapped or removed for her safety. After the finale my thoughts changed and a third option surfaced: Coop trying to save her removed her from various points in time (for lack of better wording).
In part 1, the Fireman tells Cooper to 'Listen to the sounds'. Then we hear the skipping phonograph sound. The Firemen tells Cooper 'It is in our house now'. We hear this sound again when Laura disappears walking through the woods with Cooper. If Laura is the one that the Fireman referred to, then this seems like the moment the Fireman rescued her and brought her to the house of the Fireman and Senorita Dido.
Or, "It is in our house now" could refer to the house Carrie Page lives in.
"It all cannot be said aloud now" because we don't want to tip people off to its/her location.
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But she screams (not a nice thing) and Coop looks puzzled ......
The scream and flapping sound seems to be the same scream as when she was pulled out of The Red Room. Perhaps the rescue also freed her from there.
This I do agree with and up until the finale I had two thoughts about Laura's forced removal from the Red Room: she was kidnapped or removed for her safety. After the finale my thoughts changed and a third option surfaced: Coop trying to save her removed her from various points in time (for lack of better wording).
I had this thought too, but I still feel very unsure of what happened in both those scenes. When she was taken from the woods AND the red room, who took her, and where did she go?
If the Fireman saved Laura, why didn't he just do that a long time ago? He could've avoided a lot of headaches for Coop. Also, why didn't Gerard or Mike (whatever he's referred to now) reach in and zap Cooper with his electricity fingertips a long time ago? Wouldn't that have waken Coop up? He has electricity in his fingers, as seen when he makes a new Dougie with the seed and evidently, now they can pass tangible objects back and fourth between the lodge and "reality." That could have come in handy earlier in the storyline, right?
My take was always (after weeks of thinking) that getting the yank was due to non-existence. So, Laura tells Coop a thing that changes his future behavior that in turn makes it impossible for Laura to be there in the red room with him and she is pulled from existence because it is no longer so.
Coop leads Laura through the woods and she doesn't meet Leo and Jaques so she no longer belongs (well, actually HE no longer belongs, but maybe it's his reality) and is pulled out of (his) existence. I know Coop's plunge into non-existence was not like that at all, but I like the logic train nonetheless.
It's these small things that actually make TP scary. Coop bashing the mirror with his head, the screaming fly-off, the smokey popping off a tulpa head.... They're quick, but ultimately very unsettling. Like how you'd expect real danger to be, unannounced, not built up with music or time to think. Also, Laura's final scream. creepy.
In part 1, the Fireman tells Cooper to 'Listen to the sounds'. Then we hear the skipping phonograph sound. The Firemen tells Cooper 'It is in our house now'. We hear this sound again when Laura disappears walking through the woods with Cooper. If Laura is the one that the Fireman referred to, then this seems like the moment the Fireman rescued her and brought her to the house of the Fireman and Senorita Dido.
It cannot be like that. Because we hear this sound once more time. When Coop is in Black Lodge and Doppelganger Arm do something. Mike say "something is wrong". Then we hear this sound when Coop going throught courtain.
My theory to that is. Evil Arm is working with Judy OR Evil Arm is Judy. Because Evil Arm appear in place where statue was and I read before a theories that this statue is Judy.
If this sound is Fireman sound. Fireman would be bad one cooperating with Evil Arm.
In part 1, the Fireman tells Cooper to 'Listen to the sounds'. Then we hear the skipping phonograph sound. The Firemen tells Cooper 'It is in our house now'. We hear this sound again when Laura disappears walking through the woods with Cooper. If Laura is the one that the Fireman referred to, then this seems like the moment the Fireman rescued her and brought her to the house of the Fireman and Senorita Dido.
It cannot be like that. Because we hear this sound once more time. When Coop is in Black Lodge and Doppelganger Arm do something. Mike say "something is wrong". Then we hear this sound when Coop going throught courtain.
My theory to that is. Evil Arm is working with Judy OR Evil Arm is Judy. Because Evil Arm appear in place where statue was and I read before a theories that this statue is Judy.
If this sound is Fireman sound. Fireman would be bad one cooperating with Evil Arm.
I don't hear the phonograph sound in the Lodge. Do you mean the electrical sound?
Because same sounds after some electricity filters sounds diffent. It is simpe effect as in electrical music. It cannot sound the same. We hear in background distortion similiar to fan in Palmers house in slow motion. Fireman hear to it in clean version in his device and Coop is in woods there is silent and nothing bothered. All this season 3 is about elecricity, and sounds we hear is just a electricity. Electrical signals are never the same, electrical power is exposed to distortion. That's why newest technology use a digital broadcast. Analog signal is converted to digital to make sure everyone hear the same, but there is old analog phonograph. And all this Black Lodge is full of electricity, why this sound would be same in Black Lodge and in woods or phonograph ?
If we watch this again, there is even show to us that there is big distortion in Black Lodge:
Fire walk with