Around the dinner table, the conversation was lively. Thank you but for now, the forum has been archived.
Whilst watching part 16, the second time, When Dale Cooper kept saying "need". I recalled part 1 when Mr. C is schooling Ray in the booth.
Mr. C: "Want, not NEED. I don't need anything, Ray."Compare this with Cooper in part 16: Cooper: "I NEED you to make another one."
And again compare part 1:
Mr C: "If there's one thing you should know about me, Ray, it's that I don't NEED anything."
With part 16:
Cooper: "Bushnell, I'm gonna NEED to borrow the 32 snub-nose you wear in the shoulder holster under your left arm."
Well, I'd say that it's characteristic of the hero's paradigm to be able to ask for help, and to do so. The heel, on the other hand, often perishes because of his hybris, pride, or overconfidence.
Furthermore, if I remember correctly, BOB said something along the lines of I don't need things, I want things at some point. Maybe it was in FWWM.
"What I want and what I need are different things, Audrey"
Mike and I talked about this at length on our podcast this week (Drink Full and Descend). I would type up more here right now, but I'm so sleepy, Audrey, and look at all of this paperwork I have to do.
Long and short is that I read him to be using "need" in an ethical sense. But, I seriously am feeling sleepy. Will try and return to this and say more in future.
Re: what I said before about BOB, I found the reference. It's not from FWWM, but from the Secret Diary (Jan. 3, 1988), but he could have said it elsewhere, too.
I also remember the scene Caemeron quoted, now that he mentioned it. It's Cooper keeping things cool and professional after Audrey's advances, right?
Re: what I said before about BOB, I found the reference. It's not from FWWM, but from the Secret Diary (Jan. 3, 1988), but he could have said it elsewhere, too.
I also remember the scene Caemeron quoted, now that he mentioned it. It's Cooper keeping things cool and professional after Audrey's advances, right?
Yeah, he continues on about how he is an agent of the FBI and that means he has to adhere to a certain code, etc. So, he doesn't seem to be using "need" in the sense of needing food to survive so much as in this sense of ethical obligation. I read the line in Part 16 the same way. "I need you to make another one" because I cannot let Janey-E and Sonny Jim live without a Dougie. Later, when she says "Don't go" maybe he wants to stay, but he *needs* to go to Twin Peaks. Etc.
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