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(@venus2275)
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I don't buy the nuthouse theory. You would think that Ben would have mentioned her when told about Richard and when handed Coopers key. Richard said he had been shown a photo of his Dad by Audrey. So she was definitely around at some point. I don't think she is in a mental hospital as the in the dancing scene she is clearly somewhere else linked to the lodges. The electricity noise, otherworldly location and after the band play backwards. She also kept saying in earlier scenes that she didn't feel like herself. As with Diane, I think she could be a doppelgänger too. But it's only after she has stopped dancing that she gets the realisation that she IS somewhere else. I think she will be rescued in some way by Cooper. Her story isn't over.. we are just getting to it and working it out. Cooper will find Laura (another one) as instructed by Leland and visit her Mother, where there will be a showdown with Sarah. Audrey may even be in the Great Northern, hence the humming sound. Diane said she was in the 'Sheriffs office' ... maybe she is Naido.... although I'm more inclinded to think Naido is Judy. Think Cooper will also venture into the Conveience Store and turn up to the Sheriffs office as Mr C arrives, ready to confuse Andy and Lucy ....not sure how it will all end but I'm sure Lynch will provide the answers we want..... just hope we like them. Oh and Cooper needs to resolve what the fireman told him .... '430' and 'Richard and Linda, two birds, one stone.' Who's Linda? 

 
Posted : 31/08/2017 5:11 pm
(@wisdomearle)
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I don't think I have the answers, but I do have some thoughts and some questions about this as well...
I don't think our dear Audrey is exactly in her right mind. She went through a lot: at the beginning of the series, she tells Cooper that her brother Johnny had emotional problems. "It runs in the family" she explained. Then, she survived an explosion, she was in a coma for who knows how long, she was raped by DoppelCoop and she had Richard, who was pure evil, basically. So she could be in some sort of mental hospital. But that electricity noise is weird. And the fact that she "was" in the Roadhouse. But she told Charlie that she didn't feel like she was actually there, that she didn't feel like she was herself (she said those things "earlier" in the series, but we already know that season 3 isn't in chronological order. "Is it future or is it past?").
And the whole Roadhouse/Bang Bang Bar is another big question mark for me. Maybe the Roadhouse is like the room above the convenience store: it used to exist but not anymore, at least not in the "human" plane of existence. Does that make sense? I don't even know anymore, fellas. I am so full of questions. 

 
Posted : 31/08/2017 10:34 pm
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Unless I miss my guess, Diane and Dougie were "tulpas", not doppelgängers like Cooper's. For what we've seen so far, tulpas are "manufactured for a purpose" and they "grow from seeds", these golden seeds. 
Once I was reading Twin Peaks quotes, and there are a lot of Log Lady's monologues that were never included in the series. One of those monologues was about balance. I think that the whole tulpa thing is about balance. If Cooper was stucked in the Red Room and his doppelgänger was in the "real plane", then they needed to balance the situation by creating Dougie. 
So, doppelgänger basically means "evil twin", while "tulpa" means "a being or object which is created through spiritual or mental powers. The term comes from Tibetan 'emanation' or 'manifestation'. Modern practitioners use the term to refers to a type of imaginary friend". 

Oh, and I'm also wondering about that 430 thing the Giant Fireman said. But Linda was already mentioned: Carl asked about her while driving Shelly, after Becky stole her car. I still don't know how Linda is connected with Richard.
 

 
Posted : 31/08/2017 10:51 pm
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Posted by: Michele B Witkowski

ok so what is she in a nut house ??

Any potential that she is under hypnosis? My husband brought this up, and she is being guided through some sort of therapy? Social situations evidently terrify her, now.

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 12:50 am
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Audrey's situation isn't a normal, familiar one.

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 3:00 am
(@katey-e-schrodinger)
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Posted by: shrrrrrrrrrrk
Posted by: Michele B Witkowski

ok so what is she in a nut house ??

Any potential that she is under hypnosis? My husband brought this up, and she is being guided through some sort of therapy? Social situations evidently terrify her, now.

I considered that, too (see my post from a few days back). I doubt now she"s under hypnosis. There doesn't seem to be much guidance, especially in the "waking-up" part of the scene. I'll stick with dream.

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 3:23 am
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Posted by: JeffreyGWillett
Posted by: Lynch_ee_fruit

I'm still in the process of rewatching the original series, and FWWM. I know there are other thing I'd need to look at, like The Secret History, but I won't have time to order them before Sunday 😉

My idea about Audrey is that since she was so in love with Coop, and that love is the key to the White Lodge, maybe that's where she's trapped? The last scene showed her in a white room.

That's why I'm rewatching everything, can't remember how much Audrey was in love with Cooper...

She certainly lusted after him, but they didn't have enough of a relationship for her to truly love him.  She seemed to be "in love" with Wheeler by the end of the series. It was all teenage stuff. If that is the only love Audrey has experienced in the last 25 years, I feel sorry for her. 

Even after spending time with Audrey, Cooper said that one wish was to make love with a woman that he truly loved (cared about, or some such).  That suggests Audrey was not "the one."

Annie was probably the one after Caroline. Audrey he loved but she was much too young and inexperienced (in life). To be fair, he didn't say he was looking for the One, but a woman he truly cared about.  At this point, I think Agent Cooper is above such things (given his response to Janey-E after waking up) and what's really important here is Audrey's love. It might be an important factor in the outcome.

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 9:19 am
(@pine-cone)
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After re-watching Sunset Boulevard, I'm still hoping- not predicting, mind you- Audrey has been a prisoner in her mind and a "star" of sorts. Whether she's been playing community theatre in Twin Peaks, or starring in the 2017 version of "Invitation to Love," I think Audrey may have had a life, of sorts, in the world of drama.

Her brief mirror scene looks to me as if she is in a dressing room, sans makeup. No doubt she is floating "between two worlds." I believe we'll see her again and she'll somehow be integral to the final episodes.

 
Posted : 02/09/2017 12:04 am
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Even after spending time with Audrey, Cooper said that one wish was to make love with a woman that he truly loved (cared about, or some such).  That suggests Audrey was not "the one."

 

I believe the quote was "someone I have a genuine affection for"

 
Posted : 02/09/2017 1:16 am
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Once Coop helped her in one eyed jack's, now time to help Coop.

 
Posted : 02/09/2017 1:18 am
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I hope Cooper and Audrey get together in the finale because they can relate to each other in a way that nobody else can - they have both been absent from TP reality for 25 years!

 
Posted : 02/09/2017 3:45 am
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In rewatching the first scene with Audrey and Charlie, he talks about being her husband BY LAW and that they have a CONTRACT. She threatens to break that CONTRACT.

It sounds like those old fables about a "deal with the devil" where someone trades their soul to protect someone else. And it's a binding contract.  

It also reminds me a bit of the haggling in the Lodge over Coop's soul at the end season 2. And It also reminds me of the Lodge language about Laura being wed with the Owl Ring. 

We'll know soon hopefully. 

 
Posted : 02/09/2017 3:46 am
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Posted by: Karen

The Road House is real, Audrey dancing in it was not real. 
I watched her scene two extra times. Seeing herself in a mirror, there is nothing behind her but whiteness, nothing ahead of her but whiteness. Along with the noise clue ( "listen to the sounds" ), I think she is not in our world. We can see why "Charlie" did not respond to her at times.

BTW, note about "Audrey's Dance" music, they also used it for the Arm's dance in the Black Lodge ( original show ).  

Also a clue: the music plays backwards as the final scene.

 

That was different music he was dancing to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb9Acr_OHCw

 
Posted : 02/09/2017 3:47 am
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Posted by: Pine Cone

After re-watching Sunset Boulevard, I'm still hoping- not predicting, mind you- Audrey has been a prisoner in her mind and a "star" of sorts. Whether she's been playing community theatre in Twin Peaks, or starring in the 2017 version of "Invitation to Love," I think Audrey may have had a life, of sorts, in the world of drama.

Her brief mirror scene looks to me as if she is in a dressing room, sans makeup. No doubt she is floating "between two worlds." I believe we'll see her again and she'll somehow be integral to the final episodes.

I don't think we'll see Audrey again.  The poster of Sunset Boulevard is the clue with the quote "I'm ready for my close-up".... that's the very last line in the movie.

 
Posted : 02/09/2017 1:47 pm
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Posted by: Mike Harris
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I really think this is the last we may see of Audrey...that Lynch will not resolve it for us. 

Yeah, I don't think we see Audrey again.  That close-up scene of Audrey in the mirror is it.  With all the references of Audrey to Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard, the final clue is when Norma says "I'm ready for my close-up"... which just happens to be the last line in the movie.

NNNNNnnnnnnn

 
Posted : 02/09/2017 5:41 pm
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