We may get a better idea who Judy is, but I fear the answer may remain ambiguous. Same with Dale Cooper. What I really dread is that we may be left with wondering which Coop survives (In this world, I mean). I can see us debating that question after the finale. But I hope I am wrong.
Oh dear, it looks like you might spoil the finale!:) But I hope not.
I think it's possible that some "irrelevant" plots from the begining may turn up major ones. Maybe the insurance man? Or Chip?(ain't got no phone). And I really wanna find out what's with this black device in Buenos Aires.
I am just guessing. And yes it would be great to see a follow up to that early insurance scene with Lucy. It seems like that black device imploded into a small gold object--i thought it was no longer a communication device but the mysteries surrounding it remained.
Honestly I want the whole series to end with claymation, stop-motion animation rabbits making disconnected observations about our day-to-day lives.
Honestly I want the whole series to end with claymation, stop-motion animation rabbits making disconnected observations about our day-to-day lives.
We have a winner!
We may get a better idea who Judy is, but I fear the answer may remain ambiguous. Same with Dale Cooper. What I really dread is that we may be left with wondering which Coop survives (In this world, I mean). I can see us debating that question after the finale. But I hope I am wrong.
Oh dear, it looks like you might spoil the finale!:) But I hope not.
I think it's possible that some "irrelevant" plots from the begining may turn up major ones. Maybe the insurance man? Or Chip?(ain't got no phone). And I really wanna find out what's with this black device in Buenos Aires.
I am just guessing. And yes it would be great to see a follow up to that early insurance scene with Lucy. It seems like that black device imploded into a small gold object--i thought it was no longer a communication device but the mysteries surrounding it remained.
It's possible the insurance guy was an oblique way of introducing a new Sheriff Truman. Still, I agree that a follow up would be good. Same with the black box thingy. A follow up, that is. Even I don't think the box is really Harry.
Anyone else notice the drunk pukey oil guy in the cell is repeating what's said a la Dougie? Has he also been manufactured? If so for whom? Something about those people being gathered in the cells makes me think it's gonna kick off in there big time.
Lynch to fully sell out and have a battle with dragons, naked women and ice zombies
Lynch to fully sell out and have a battle with dragons, naked women and ice zombies
Can we lose the dragons and ice zombies?
Anyone else notice the drunk pukey oil guy in the cell is repeating what's said a la Dougie? Has he also been manufactured? If so for whom? Something about those people being gathered in the cells makes me think it's gonna kick off in there big time.
Dougie/Cooper is like that cause of taking the place of a manufactured person. Maybe you're right and he's Laura
As much as I am looking forward to the remaining episodes, I also dread it. I'm going to miss all the theorizing, ideas and conjectures that happens before and after each installment.
This is why I am pleased the show will end in ambiguity! The rest of my life for theorizing, ideas and conjectures!
To whomever said the Secret History was terrible..
What? Seriously?
I read the whole thing in a day and couldn't put it down.
A fascinating blend of fiction and reality, creating a large tapestry of a world that explains a lot about what's going on, whilst keeping things ambiguous.
Not sure what the weird hate for it is.
The book was just snippets of poorly written sci-fi all over. It seemed like Mark Frost tried to make Twin Peaks' folklore into something that could be an alternative truth to phenomena we're surrounded by in real life. He's trying to tie in UFO sightings, Illuminati, government conspiracies involving Richard Nixon, Free Masons and Parsons & Crowley mysticism in to some bigger, coherent esoteric truth. I guess if one is in to tin foil hat conspiracy theories, it can be entertaining, but other than that it was fairly lackluster performance. Bear in mind, that since it's not even a traditional novel, but a scrap book collection. It's very quick to piece a book like that together. I try to objectively judge book by it's content, not whom it's written by.
Twin Peaks phenomena during Season 3 has started to remind me of scientology. We who are on the ride are trying to unlock the mysteries of the show, since the show itself doesn't seem to be unlocking them for us. Fans are coming with most obscure theories about numbers, appearances of characters, reflections and whatnot that appear in the show. I can imagine that to an outsider all this effort would seem completely bonkers. Yes, one might argue that "Lynch intended people to have their own interpretations of things!" But one might say as well, that Twin Peaks is a lore created by them, and therefore it's up to them to at least give us proper guidance in to Twin Peaks universe.
Louis Theroux said well about scientology in a JRE pod: "I took a tour around the L. Ron. Hubbard life exhibit, and had this weird feeling of where you just think they took a person who is kind of an average sci-fi writer and attempted to make him sound like he's the second coming of Jesus." It somehow reminded me of S03 hardcore fanbase.
I'd like to know how people would react if S03 was indeed written and directed by Lynch & Frost, but Showtime had announced the authors to be something completely different. A name sounding like a Polish art student, perhaps. I wonder if these forums had outbursts of "OMG, this is such a waste of time! Lynch and Frost would've done it so much better!"
Anyone else notice the drunk pukey oil guy in the cell is repeating what's said a la Dougie? Has he also been manufactured? If so for whom? Something about those people being gathered in the cells makes me think it's gonna kick off in there big time.
Dougie/Cooper is like that cause of taking the place of a manufactured person. Maybe you're right and he's Laura
Good point. Has our drunk friend been in the Black Lodge? The oil would suggest so.
Anyone else notice the drunk pukey oil guy in the cell is repeating what's said a la Dougie? Has he also been manufactured? If so for whom? Something about those people being gathered in the cells makes me think it's gonna kick off in there big time.
Dougie/Cooper is like that cause of taking the place of a manufactured person. Maybe you're right and he's Laura
Good point. Has our drunk friend been in the Black Lodge? The oil would suggest so.
He's a Woodsman in training. He was put in jail because he doesn't yet have the proverbial beard. Once bearded, he will be released and head on over to the Dutchman's. However, it appears that he's going to get some major action as a rookie. Hopefully his more experienced brethren will show up to help him out, but doubtful, since no beard.
The book was just snippets of poorly written sci-fi all over. It seemed like Mark Frost tried to make Twin Peaks' folklore into something that could be an alternative truth to phenomena we're surrounded by in real life. He's trying to tie in UFO sightings, Illuminati, government conspiracies involving Richard Nixon, Free Masons and Parsons & Crowley mysticism in to some bigger, coherent esoteric truth. I guess if one is in to tin foil hat conspiracy theories, it can be entertaining, but other than that it was fairly lackluster performance. Bear in mind, that since it's not even a traditional novel, but a scrap book collection. It's very quick to piece a book like that together. I try to objectively judge book by it's content, not whom it's written by.
Twin Peaks phenomena during Season 3 has started to remind me of scientology. We who are on the ride are trying to unlock the mysteries of the show, since the show itself doesn't seem to be unlocking them for us. Fans are coming with most obscure theories about numbers, appearances of characters, reflections and whatnot that appear in the show. I can imagine that to an outsider all this effort would seem completely bonkers. Yes, one might argue that "Lynch intended people to have their own interpretations of things!" But one might say as well, that Twin Peaks is a lore created by them, and therefore it's up to them to at least give us proper guidance in to Twin Peaks universe.
Louis Theroux said well about scientology in a JRE pod: "I took a tour around the L. Ron. Hubbard life exhibit, and had this weird feeling of where you just think they took a person who is kind of an average sci-fi writer and attempted to make him sound like he's the second coming of Jesus." It somehow reminded me of S03 hardcore fanbase.
I'd like to know how people would react if S03 was indeed written and directed by Lynch & Frost, but Showtime had announced the authors to be something completely different. A name sounding like a Polish art student, perhaps. I wonder if these forums had outbursts of "OMG, this is such a waste of time! Lynch and Frost would've done it so much better!"
Interesting post.
I really enjoyed the book. It psyched me up in advance of the series starting. And I expect that a lot of things that will go unanswered in the series may be touched on in the next book.
I'm a big fan of science fiction, and I personally wouldn't compare the book to science fiction, not at all. Ufology and mysticism, definitely. But not science fiction.
I think Frost did a great job of showing us his own backdrop to the Twin Peaks universe. A backdrop that fuels his inspiration for his ideas.
It may not all be necessary content for the series, but for me it really helped to expand the vibe/feel for the series as a whole. I'm very excited about the follow up.
I can't really comment on the rest of your post. Are you inferring that many of the posters here are Lynch/Frost sheep? I've been posting on here for some time now and I can tell you that is definitely not the case 😀
Truthfully, for me I would go into watching a twin peaks series that had absolutely nothing to do with Lynch and Frost with a skeptical, grumpy point of view. Because it wouldn't be truthful and would neglect a lot of their inner thinking, which is important in my opinion. Otherwise, it's like what happened with the Dune novels written by Frank Herbert's son and co. Totally ruined the whole mythos and history, simply for them to make a buck and churn out mass produced garbage.
That said, Star Wars is an example of when a humble story becomes bigger and better than what it actually is. George Lucas - average at best writer and director. But the imagination and expanded universe that sprung forth from it thanks to writers like Timothy Zhan and the video games was immense. I find the entire Star Wars universe so much more interesting than the films themselves. I'll even go as far as saying that Rogue One is the greatest Star Wars film of all time. So, there's always the chance that a fan writer and director can do a better job than the original writers.
But I can hand on heart say that this Twin Peaks series (series 3) is the greatest series I've ever seen. Ever.
Period. 🙂
I find it amusing when I see people concerned that there are now too many plot lines to tie up. Have they forgotten they are watching David Lynch? Since when did you see a David Lynch film where the plot lines tied up properly?
Exactly. People are trying to figure out who Billy and Tina are for god's sake. Plot is not even close to being important in a Lynch project. These aren't even plot lines to begin with but stories revealing a characters mindset, dreams, etc.... Mean to be felt, not figured out.
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