Judy is:
a) Laura
b) Josie's sister
c) Naido
I love the idea that it's Laura. Very "Mulholland Drive"
I thought that Jeffries=monkey=Naido monkey sounds = Judy. Now I am no longer sure.
Diane is not Judy. I don't know who Judy is, but that theory is horrible.
At least, I hope it's wrong...she's had her two major plot twists - Met Bad Coop and something happened, is Janey-E's sister. I think adding 'is Judy' to this is ridiculous.
I'm going to go with the simple guesses. Judy is either Briggs (though I think that's too obvious), or the woman who swallowed the bug.
But, I am almost certainly wrong.
How's Judy? How's Judy?
For Judy to make any sense in this story, she would have to be a new, separate character. If Judy is another name for someone/something we already know, I don't see why it's important (a rose by any other name, etc).
The way Mr. C acted with Jeffries, it seems Judy could be the person/entity that impersonated Jeffries over the phone and put the hit on Mr. C.
But maybe I'm missing something. It wouldn't be the first time.
Judy could be another incarnation of Laura Palmer, and it could be another reference to Hitchcock's Vertigo. After her death Laura first reappeared as Madeleine and she might return again as Judy. Lynch has acknowledged Vertigo as a source of inspiration. It's much like his fascination with Sunset Boulevard, of which he showed a short excerpt in part 15, and which appears to have finally woken Cooper from his trance. For those not familiar with Vertigo, the heroine is first introduced as Madeleine (whom she is impersonating,) but her real name is Judy.
I bet 10 bucks on this !
But season 2 already had a Maddy in Twin Peaks (named after Madeline Ferguson, as we understood 25 years ago)
Kinda wonder if Judy is a code word for Twin Peaks. Going through the scene, Jeffries says "so, you are Cooper," after which Mr. C asks about Judy. Jeffries then says "why don't you ask her yourself, you've already met her," then goes on to give him the coordinates for TP, which I think could be a way of saying "here is Judy". I also think that after this, Jeffries suspects he is not talking to Cooper, hence his lack of a reply or response to Mr. C's asking "who is Judy?" repeatedly. Jeffries then calls him through the phone as a way of removing Mr. C from the room, and then Jeffries vanishes.
Looking at Jeffries comment in FWWM: "I'm not gonna talk about Judy, in fact, we're gonna leave Judy out of this..." Could this be code for saying "I'm not gonna talk about Twin Peaks, in fact, we're gonna leave Twin speaks out of this"? It's very speculative and I realize could be crack-pot, but I don't necessarily think "Judy" has to be a person.
Edit: typo, changed "hence is" to "hence his"
Yeah, it's still a big, glorious mystery. Several of these theories are very interesting and fun to think about -- any one of them could be it, or none of them. But the one about Judy, Naido, and Briggs all being one and the same (or at least deeply connected) has a few things going for it.
As has been pointed out, the coordinates that Maybe-Jeffries (still not 100% sure*) gives Mr. C start the same as the coordinates that were given to Briggs by Ruth and Bill: 4/8º/5/5'/1./4
We don't know how the coordinates end (those first few numbers would seem to indicate the latitudinal half), and the last 2 numbers on Ruth's arm were smudged out, so it's entirely possible that where Briggs was trying to go in Twin Peaks is a different place than where Judy supposedly is. In Twin Peaks alone, there would seem to be at least two portal-type areas (Glastonbury Grove and 253 yards east of Jackrabbit Palace, and there's also the intersection where Leland and Laura encountered Mike and the little boy's spirit floated up after being run over by Richard Horne).
But it could also very well be the same place, and one has to wonder if it's where Hawk, Andy, Bobby and Frank found Naido. Andy said that people want Naido dead, and people clearly wanted Briggs dead... it may be that Mr. C and/or others want "Judy" dead as well, although it doesn't appear that Mr. C knows enough about Judy to want her (him?) dead at this point. Did the Sheriff's department beat everybody else to the punch?
The other thing that I remembered while thinking about this was the fact that Maj. Briggs' head appeared in space (and uttered "blue rose") right after Naido fell into the same spot from the big electric bell. And then of course there are the monkey sounds that have already been commented upon, further connecting Naido to the "Judy "monkey in FWWM.
*I should probably put this in another thread, but part of my skepticism about the electric bell/teapot being Jeffries, beyond the noticeably off voice impression and the notion of there being an imitator coming up on a few occasions throughout the season, has to do with how the Jumping Man was portrayed in part 15. The credits show Carlton Lee Russell reprising his FWWM role, but somebody else's face is clearly superimposed over his. At times it looks like Sarah Palmer's, but at others it looks very much like David Bowie's not long before he passed away (screenshot attached). So I guess that could also open speculation about Sarah Palmer perhaps being Judy being the frog-moth girl, and on and on... Coop definitely met Sarah. Oh boy oh boy...
Judy is:
a) Laura
b) Josie's sister
c) Naido
I love the idea that it's Laura. Very "Mulholland Drive"
I'm with you, but I think there may be some overlap with these characters. Naido=Josie's sister or Naido=Laura, or at least something to do with Laura.
I really hope that "Judy" is not the secret identity of someone we already know. Or a monkey.
Yeah, it's still a big, glorious mystery. Several of these theories are very interesting and fun to think about -- any one of them could be it, or none of them. But the one about Judy, Naido, and Briggs all being one and the same (or at least deeply connected) has a few things going for it.
As has been pointed out, the coordinates that Maybe-Jeffries (still not 100% sure*) gives Mr. C start the same as the coordinates that were given to Briggs by Ruth and Bill: 4/8º/5/5'/1./4
We don't know how the coordinates end (those first few numbers would seem to indicate the latitudinal half), and the last 2 numbers on Ruth's arm were smudged out, so it's entirely possible that where Briggs was trying to go in Twin Peaks is a different place than where Judy supposedly is. In Twin Peaks alone, there would seem to be at least two portal-type areas (Glastonbury Grove and 253 yards east of Jackrabbit Palace, and there's also the intersection where Leland and Laura encountered Mike and the little boy's spirit floated up after being run over by Richard Horne).
But it could also very well be the same place, and one has to wonder if it's where Hawk, Andy, Bobby and Frank found Naido. Andy said that people want Naido dead, and people clearly wanted Briggs dead... it may be that Mr. C and/or others want "Judy" dead as well, although it doesn't appear that Mr. C knows enough about Judy to want her (him?) dead at this point. Did the Sheriff's department beat everybody else to the punch?
The other thing that I remembered while thinking about this was the fact that Maj. Briggs' head appeared in space (and uttered "blue rose") right after Naido fell into the same spot from the big electric bell. And then of course there are the monkey sounds that have already been commented upon, further connecting Naido to the "Judy "monkey in FWWM.
*I should probably put this in another thread, but part of my skepticism about the electric bell/teapot being Jeffries, beyond the noticeably off voice impression and the notion of there being an imitator coming up on a few occasions throughout the season, has to do with how the Jumping Man was portrayed in part 15. The credits show Carlton Lee Russell reprising his FWWM role, but somebody else's face is clearly superimposed over his. At times it looks like Sarah Palmer's, but at others it looks very much like David Bowie's not long before he passed away (screenshot attached). So I guess that could also open speculation about Sarah Palmer perhaps being Judy being the frog-moth girl, and on and on... Coop definitely met Sarah. Oh boy oh boy...
My understanding is that the coordinates of everyone are for the very same spot. They are all coordinates given by Briggs in all cases, they can't be different. Jeffries only wanted Mr. C to not have them (I don't think he ever cared about them personally).
I insist that this series is all about Laura Palmer's golden bubble. The coordinates spot is where Laura will land, something that Mr. C doesn't want to happen and Cooper was originally on a mission to make sure this happens when he left the red room/lodges.
To follow the path of overimaginative-theories about Judy i'm going to add up mine
When asked about who Judy is, Jeffries shows part of the coordinates and right after that we see a very peculiar telephone with letters linked to numbers.
The complete coordinates are 48°55'14.2"N 117°26'39.3"W
If we use the code of the telephone, the sequence 2639 is hiding the name "Andy". He is Judy!
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