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(@esther)
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I think Judy is Diane or Diane's doppelganger. It is possible also that she is the girl from 1956 from episode 8.

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 5:52 am
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Posted by: Andrew Glasson

Judy is either Major Garland Briggs, Josie's sister, some connection with a monkey, Laura/Madeline the Vertigo connection or Audrey wearing red shoes. Cooper as met Garland Briggs, Laura/Madeline and Audrey.  Garland Briggs, Laura and Madeline are dead.  Briggs is the only one who could have feasibly met Phillip Jeffries in Buenos Aires in 1987 using Judy as a psydonum.  Audrey is the only one who is alive either living or in a coma.

In the Missing Pieces scene in Buenos Aires, Jeffries asks the hotel receptionist about Miss Judy. He proceeds to give Jeffries a letter from the senorita, the young lady. 

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 5:54 am
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Judy could be the name of the Laura-bubble-spirit.  If so, Judy could have inhabited any number of people that Cooper has met.  

Judy Garland/Garland Briggs would be, as we would have said in 1989, "lame".  

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 6:20 am
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Judy could also be Heidi or Donna or some woman in the background of episode 19 or ............................

😉 

 

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 6:35 am
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Posted by: Katie LeVan

So, if the coordinates were where Mr. C. could find Judy, it COULD be Naido because she is in the jail cell in Twin Peaks.

Naido  also seemed to be making monkey-like sounds in the cell. 

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 7:01 am
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Hi all - I've been reading for awhile - but I'm of the mindset that Judy is Audrey Horne.

The first time she and Charlie show up - he gaslights her with the "I don't have a crystal ball". The crystal ball is right in front of him.   Just like it is between Professor Marvel and Dorothy. Professor Marvel looks into his crystal ball - but it's not really a crystal ball. He just has info on Dorothy while her 'eyes are closed'.

I think on this thread someone pointed out the Garland Briggs statement about "Judy Garland", the flying Monkey  - IE Wizard of Oz references.

We also had a fork in the road - IF that was a fork Dougie stuck in the wall.  I thought it was a knife - I'll have to watch again.

So whose on the yellow brick road?  Right now - Audrey isn't. She's in a house with Charlie.  We saw Mr. C on the road.

I just feel like Judy is right in front of us.  Lynch loves layers, symbolism and tricking his viewers - but sometimes the trick is putting it right in front of us like Lula and Glinda in a bubble.  He loves his long dark roads/highways.

I fully expect to be wrong - but who Judy is this season is driving me crazy the way Who Laura Palmer's killer did.

 

At the end of the day - the person (albeit possessed) who killed Laura was right in front of us all along.

I'm also hoping for a nod to West Side story if this is the end of the road for Twin Peaks. Tony and Riff (Ben Horne and Russ Tamblyn) sitting outside the Roadhouse (Bang Bang) and Jacoby wants Horne to go inside to dance and Horne tells Jacoby he senses something important will happen and Jacoby suggests perhaps it has something to do with the dance.

^My own fan fiction wish list^. 🙂

The charm of Twin Peaks originally was those two from one of my favorite movies being in it.

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 7:06 am
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I'm going with Major Briggs because of the Judy Garland connection. The reference to Judy Garland reminds me of one of Lynch's most prominent themes: the tragic downfall of a woman's innocence. Judy Garland had a Laura Palmer-esque downfall that is well chronicled. 

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 7:22 am
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I think Judy is Annie Blackburn

I think Annie, like the "real" Dougie, has been manufactured by someone. She's not Norma's sister, which would explain the discrepancies with Frost's book regarding Norma's family.

Which would explain also why she would appear to to Laura. She's been travelling back and forth to send messages.

Jeffries tells Mr. C that he's already met Judy.

How's Judy? How's Judy?

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 8:25 am
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Posted by: Teo Peaks

I think Judy is Annie Blackburn

I think Annie, like the "real" Dougie, has been manufactured by someone. She's not Norma's sister, which would explain the discrepancies with Frost's book regarding Norma's family.

Which would explain also why she would appear to to Laura. She's been travelling back and forth to send messages.

Jeffries tells Mr. C that he's already met Judy.

How's Judy? How's Judy?

I like this and hope there is an Annie tie in. 

I also think the Laura-bubble-spirit could have inhabited Annie Blackburn.  Combining these ideas, Annie could have been a manufactured host to the spirit Laura (Judy).  

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 8:42 am
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Posted by: Maurice Dumont

- Ladykiller DoppelCoop seems afraid of a girl!

Or he's simply more comfortable when he knows everything. He's good at adapting, based on the situation. But the tiniest little detail happening in his back could derail his plans. He's not Superman, and it's not all about Arm-wrestling.

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 8:53 am
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Posted by: Teo Peaks

I think Judy is Annie Blackburn

I think Annie, like the "real" Dougie, has been manufactured by someone. She's not Norma's sister, which would explain the discrepancies with Frost's book regarding Norma's family.

Which would explain also why she would appear to to Laura. She's been travelling back and forth to send messages.

Jeffries tells Mr. C that he's already met Judy.

How's Judy? How's Judy?

I like this and hope there is an Annie tie in. 

I also think the Laura-bubble-spirit could have inhabited Annie Blackburn.  Combining these ideas, Annie could have been a manufactured host to the spirit Laura (Judy).  

And, unless Heather Graham makes an unexpected appearance, Judy/spirit-Laura would have moved to a new host.  Could be Candie or Sara Palmer. 

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 8:56 am
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Posted by: FriendofEdStow

Could Judy be the one that unlocked the door so Mr C could speak with Jeffries?

 

That was my first thought as well. 

- Mystery 'woman' (male actor) appears and unlocks door to Jeffries' teapot room. 

- Dopple asks Jeffries' who Judy is?

- "You've already met her!" 

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 9:08 am
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Posted by: Rilly Rill

48 55 1 are all the numbers we are shown. 

There is another 4 after the 1

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 9:18 am
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Posted by: Rilly Rill

48 55 1 are all the numbers we are shown. 

There is another 4 after the 1

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 9:19 am
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Posted by: Adri Ennefus

Hi all - I've been reading for awhile - but I'm of the mindset that Judy is Audrey Horne.

The first time she and Charlie show up - he gaslights her with the "I don't have a crystal ball". The crystal ball is right in front of him.   Just like it is between Professor Marvel and Dorothy. Professor Marvel looks into his crystal ball - but it's not really a crystal ball. He just has info on Dorothy while her 'eyes are closed'.

I think on this thread someone pointed out the Garland Briggs statement about "Judy Garland", the flying Monkey  - IE Wizard of Oz references.

We also had a fork in the road - IF that was a fork Dougie stuck in the wall.  I thought it was a knife - I'll have to watch again.

So whose on the yellow brick road?  Right now - Audrey isn't. She's in a house with Charlie.  We saw Mr. C on the road.

I just feel like Judy is right in front of us.  Lynch loves layers, symbolism and tricking his viewers - but sometimes the trick is putting it right in front of us like Lula and Glinda in a bubble.  He loves his long dark roads/highways.

I fully expect to be wrong - but who Judy is this season is driving me crazy the way Who Laura Palmer's killer did.

 

At the end of the day - the person (albeit possessed) who killed Laura was right in front of us all along.

I'm also hoping for a nod to West Side story if this is the end of the road for Twin Peaks. Tony and Riff (Ben Horne and Russ Tamblyn) sitting outside the Roadhouse (Bang Bang) and Jacoby wants Horne to go inside to dance and Horne tells Jacoby he senses something important will happen and Jacoby suggests perhaps it has something to do with the dance.

^My own fan fiction wish list^. 🙂

The charm of Twin Peaks originally was those two from one of my favorite movies being in it.

Unquestionably a fork.

Too bad Natalie Wood is not available to play Judy. 

 
Posted : 21/08/2017 9:21 am
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