Laura represents the white lodge, Sarah is the black. Just what I took away from it...
We don't have any real clue about Sarah being the frog girl, it's just guessing.... But since she seems possessed by Mother according to me, since she seems very much connected to the convenience store (her living room scene, her seeing "men", her seeing Bob), it could be a good explanation (she's no master of herself since they took possession of her, and is living all this like a dream she can't act on)...
Season 2 ending was incredible to me I would've never expected this when i saw it about 10 years ago, it drove me totally mad ?.... Though, I love much better the movie ambiance actually since it can bear a proper interpretation, even without watching the series, and can carry a fantastic message or a strictly rationnal one...
We're in the show though, that's why I think there could be a more "trivial" final, for a very cerebral and global message though....
M'en parle pas, une vraie bande de bobos psychopathes !
Sarah Palmer's possession is a new occurrence. She just killed someone without it even being a big deal to her. The trucker was being an absolute dick to her but there have been many men in Twin Peaks who have been much worse and she didn't kill them!
They just casually changed her into to a horror film murderer after having been such a complex character.
Mother...Sarah = Laura's Mother. In the last episodes we have been wondering about curious expressions in Sarah's face, and the things she is watching on TV. No coincidence she drinks Bloody Mary's. As the forces of Evil have already killed Leland and Laura, they are obviously 'familiar' with Sarah's weaknesses, and 'susceptibilities'. Mother/experiment (the creature with the horns) has spawned BOB and mothfrog eggs. BOB may have sought Sarah as a host as soon as Mr. C realized Twin Peaks is the place where the coordinates are leading him to. Mother has by the way always been the tyrant of girls who like alcohol ('the mother of all evil') and -prosititution- sex (Laura, Ronette, Tracey, Naido?) so she helps Sarah battle the sexual avances.
I like the idea that was put forward that Sarah Palmer may end up in Twin Peaks prison, near Naido, and Chad and the drooler-dripping-on-concrete!
Gordon's drawing
Gordon's drawing
Just what do you see in all that? I have always noticed similarities with Laura's famous hand sign. But more like a family resemblance.
Sarah Palmer's possession is a new occurrence. She just killed someone without it even being a big deal to her. The trucker was being an absolute dick to her but there have been many men in Twin Peaks who have been much worse and she didn't kill them!
They just casually changed her into to a horror film murderer after having been such a complex character.
Think about the setting she walked into. Scenes like that don't typically end well for the woman involved or show them in the grandest of light e.g., lead to: the woman verbally standing her ground only to be molested or later sexually assaulted in the bathroom or parking lot, the woman pulls a gun and . . ., or a different less repulsive man intervenes to save the day, etc. I found it oddly satisfying within the context of season three: Sarah violently killed a much larger man without using a weapon or her hands (just the ol' BL magic). How often have we seen a woman being violent towards a man? Also, for me at least, it makes her character even more complex. It forces me to relate this Sarah to the Sarah in seasons one and two and consider a whole host (pun not intended?) of new questions (as well as my perception of her).
And the '#9' in the neon sign?
I never thought it was Windom Earle, it makes no sense since his soul was basically destroyed by Bob after he tried to run things in The Black Lodge. I always thought it was either The Arm, or Bob and now I'm thinking it's The Arm since he seems to be more of a help to Cooper.
I too disagree that Earle was speaking to Briggs through Sarah. I mean, whatever one writer (Peyton) may have originally intended isn't necessarily "true," and there might not even be one "true" explanation. Neverthless, Earle was weak and eviscerated...
Anybody else in the lodge--Laura, Leland, Annie, MIKE, an Arm--seems more likely to me to have been speaking through Sarah.
Sarah Palmer's possession is a new occurrence. She just killed someone without it even being a big deal to her. The trucker was being an absolute dick to her but there have been many men in Twin Peaks who have been much worse and she didn't kill them!
They just casually changed her into to a horror film murderer after having been such a complex character.
Think about the setting she walked into. Scenes like that don't typically end well for the woman involved or show them in the grandest of light e.g., lead to: the woman verbally standing her ground only to be molested or later sexually assaulted in the bathroom or parking lot, the woman pulls a gun and . . ., or a different less repulsive man intervenes to save the day, etc. I found it oddly satisfying within the context of season three: Sarah violently killed a much larger man without using a weapon or her hands (just the ol' BL magic). How often have we seen a woman being violent towards a man? Also, for me at least, it makes her character even more complex. It forces me to relate this Sarah to the Sarah in seasons one and two and consider a whole host (pun not intended?) of new questions (as well as my perception of her).
Yes. One of my favorite scenes from Season 2 was Nadine knocking out Hank, mainly because it felt like a female character taking a little piece of revenge after women had been so horrendously mistreated by many men in the show. That alone made the Nadine story line finally worth it to me.
Gordon's drawing
Mind = blown.
Thank you.
Sarah Palmer's possession is a new occurrence. She just killed someone without it even being a big deal to her. The trucker was being an absolute dick to her but there have been many men in Twin Peaks who have been much worse and she didn't kill them!
They just casually changed her into to a horror film murderer after having been such a complex character.
Think about the setting she walked into. Scenes like that don't typically end well for the woman involved or show them in the grandest of light e.g., lead to: the woman verbally standing her ground only to be molested or later sexually assaulted in the bathroom or parking lot, the woman pulls a gun and . . ., or a different less repulsive man intervenes to save the day, etc. I found it oddly satisfying within the context of season three: Sarah violently killed a much larger man without using a weapon or her hands (just the ol' BL magic). How often have we seen a woman being violent towards a man? Also, for me at least, it makes her character even more complex. It forces me to relate this Sarah to the Sarah in seasons one and two and consider a whole host (pun not intended?) of new questions (as well as my perception of her).
Yes. One of my favorite scenes from Season 2 was Nadine knocking out Hank, mainly because it felt like a female character taking a little piece of revenge after women had been so horrendously mistreated by many men in the show. That alone made the Nadine story line finally worth it to me.
Forgot about that scene, but nice parallel and a great contrast to what we saw between Truck You and Sarah. Equally powerful for different reasons.
I had forgotten about this...
I drew that connection straight away and loved the symmetry. Laura was taken from the Red Room against her will and Sarah seems to be a vessel; without perhaps knowing why (so in a sense it's not voluntary either).
I associated the light in Laura as 'good' but do you think the light is an indication that Laura is empty - not possessed by anything?
I think it's an indication she comes from the ether, as we have seen when the fireman created her.
When I rewatched that scene after episode 8 (and after reading a little about the myth of Sophia and the Demiurge) I immediately associated that shot with Mike recalling that when he saw the face of God he was changed. Not sure I can really elaborate any further, just a gut feeling, but the whole Laura is the one, the angels, her creation, give that light some kind of divine touch.
Also and perhaps I'm stating the obvious, the thing that came out of Sarah's head divoured that trucker's face in a way that reminded me of the experiment with Sam and Tracy. Last, when Sarah shows what's behind her face we saw a hand whose ring finger is black while the other fingers are white. Do we have to assume that there's a connection with the experiment/mother and the owl cave ring and thus additional mystery (as if it wasn't enough) about the ring?
Yes, Laura has definitely a divine origin. Besides traditionally, the one who's painted/put between the angels is god itself. Laura is physically dead, but spiritually alive. I've already opened two threads about this idea, with the theory she could be a man now (She could be saying "I feel like I know him" to agent Cooper this time) And in the other i supposed she's inhabiting Dougie (I'd love the idea and symmetry behind this)
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