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Posted by: Andrew Glasson

Is the time that Naido is found in the woods 2.53 the same time and day that Dale Cooper lands in Las Vegas?  And does that mean the events in Las Vegas and South Dakota happen after the latest events in Twin Peaks? 

Not necessarily (we have the great northern key as an element in contraddiction with your theory). It could mean that portals (or the portal from the place she was in)open up in that precise moment.

Did anybody commented on her eyes yet? Are they sewed? Are they sewed for a purpose? Sometimes the obvious is the key 

 
Posted : 16/08/2017 7:42 am
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I may be missing something, but I think Andrew was referring to time zones, though of course 2:53 is actually earlier in South Dakota than in Washington state. The next question is, where does 4:30 become significant (from one of the first lines in the first episode—or is that one not a time)?  As for Naido's eyes, good question. They look sewn shut to me.

 
Posted : 16/08/2017 7:55 am
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Posted by: cyndeewillow

Um no. The monkey doesn't say Judy. Philip Jeffries repeatedly refers to Judy in Fire Walk With Me, and in The Missing Pieces, as in "I'm not going to talk about Judy." In FWWM, after he says this we see the superimposition of a chattering monkey. I think Naido sounds like a monkey, in any case.

(Update: I watched the scene, below, again and there is an awful lot going on in that sequence. The monkey appears about 3 and some seconds in and it's not as obvious as I remember. There might have been another take somewhere that had the monkey chattering more?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMszCiYdtts

We see the monkey say "Judy" at the very end of the film, long after Bowie is gone and after Laura's murder. I think it's literally the last line. 

 
Posted : 16/08/2017 8:51 am
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I just watched it last night. Woooweee!!! What an episode! So is Andy now the wisest man at the sheriff's office? Anyway...

I too thought the drunk and Naido in the jail cells totally sounded like monkeys, and I thought about that darn monkey in FWWM, which I always assumed to represent early, base humans. 

But did y'all think the drunk the jail was "Billy"? He matched the description given at the Roadhouse. 

As for Josie, she was Chinese, right? I suppose she and Naido could still be some kind of spiritual sister. More important than being Asian was the way Naido's body was squirming, naked and frightened, in the forest. That resembled Josie before she died. Methinks there's some supernatural connection between the wood in the forest and in the Great Northern. Maybe Doorknob Josie unlocked a portal for Naido?

 
Posted : 16/08/2017 8:59 am
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Posted by: Jesse Newkirk

We see the monkey say "Judy" at the very end of the film, long after Bowie is gone and after Laura's murder. I think it's literally the last line. 

It's around the 2:09 mark.  The captions for that scene say "Jeffries voice whispers: Judy" which makes me think we'll see that monkey again with the new voice actor playing Jeffries voice. 

 
Posted : 16/08/2017 9:00 am
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Posted by: David Standifer

I may be missing something, but I think Andrew was referring to time zones, though of course 2:53 is actually earlier in South Dakota than in Washington state. The next question is, where does 4:30 become significant (from one of the first lines in the first episode—or is that one not a time)?  As for Naido's eyes, good question. They look sewn shut to me.

430 is my fav mystery of all and I hope this bears out: the ringing in the Great Northern heard by Ben Horne is an overtone series rooted on an A, which is around 430 hz. 

(Also, when Doc Jacoby strikes the golden shovel, we hear an A and E, which is, again, an overtone series rooted on A. But, it may be that Lynch was using keyboard synths to create these sounds, and A is just his go-to note.)

 
Posted : 16/08/2017 9:03 am
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Posted by: David Standifer
Posted by: Andrew Glasson

Is the time that Naido is found in the woods 2.53 the same time and day that Dale Cooper lands in Las Vegas?  And does that mean the events in Las Vegas and South Dakota happen after the latest events in Twin Peaks? 

Good catch! I think Las Vegas is in the same time zone, but South Dakota isn't. Maybe we aren't meant to think too hard about these details though.

Twin Peaks = Pacific ST

Vegas = Mountain ST

Buckhorn (as it were, western SD) = Central ST

Each is separated by one hour on the clock.  But the clock in Lynch's head is whatever one wants it to be, you know.

 
Posted : 16/08/2017 9:11 am
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Posted by: JeffreyGWillett
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Actually the one that shouldn't be there is the one we suspect is Billy. Don't they see he needs medical care? At least bring in a doctor. 

I'm not sure that is Billy or that anyone other than Chad can see that person.  

Interesting idea. Did it look to anyone else like "Billy" had breathing tubes going to his nose? I must watch again!

if it is just in Chad's mind, or if it's a spirit torturing Chas, then good. Maybe "Billy" IS Naido's protecter. .......

Maybe with Mister C out there, the jail cell is safer than a hospital. Mister C has done bad business in hospitals, and Andy seems awfully wise after meeting the Fireman. 

 
Posted : 16/08/2017 9:15 am
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Posted by: Jesse Newkirk
Posted by: David Standifer

I may be missing something, but I think Andrew was referring to time zones, though of course 2:53 is actually earlier in South Dakota than in Washington state. The next question is, where does 4:30 become significant (from one of the first lines in the first episode—or is that one not a time)?  As for Naido's eyes, good question. They look sewn shut to me.

430 is my fav mystery of all and I hope this bears out: the ringing in the Great Northern heard by Ben Horne is an overtone series rooted on an A, which is around 430 hz. 

(Also, when Doc Jacoby strikes the golden shovel, we hear an A and E, which is, again, an overtone series rooted on A. But, it may be that Lynch was using keyboard synths to create these sounds, and A is just his go-to note.)

A430?  Just a mite flat, eh?  🙂   Maybe Lynch is reaching back into the middle ages.

 
Posted : 16/08/2017 9:16 am
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Posted by: Jesse Newkirk

We see the monkey say "Judy" at the very end of the film, long after Bowie is gone and after Laura's murder. I think it's literally the last line. 

 

It's around the 2:09 mark.  The captions for that scene say "Jeffries voice whispers: Judy" which makes me think we'll see that monkey again with the new voice actor playing Jeffries voice. 

Hi there, you're all right, the monkey does say "Judy"  in this segment. (In Jeffries' voice?) I feel there's a strong connection between Naido, the monkey, Jeffries, and Judy, but have no idea what it really is. Naido does sound very much like a monkey.

Any PRISONER fans out there? It all reminded me a bit of the last episode of the original British series with Number One's monkey mask. And all those Beatles' songs referenced in this episode, too.

 
Posted : 16/08/2017 9:59 am
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Posted by: ezekielmoist

Did anybody commented on her eyes yet? Are they sewed? Are they sewed for a purpose? Sometimes the obvious is the key 

Hi ezekiel,

They are either sewn shut or skin has grown over them.  Why?  And what's with the five stab wounds on them?

So many questions, so little time.  😉

- /< /\ /> -

 
Posted : 16/08/2017 1:01 pm
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Posted by: Ric Bissell
Posted by: ezekielmoist

Did anybody commented on her eyes yet? Are they sewed? Are they sewed for a purpose? Sometimes the obvious is the key 

Hi ezekiel,

They are either sewn shut or skin has grown over them.  Why?  And what's with the five stab wounds on them?

So many questions, so little time.  😉

- /< /\ /> -

It looks like they are cracking open. 

 
Posted : 16/08/2017 1:56 pm
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Posted by: Ric Bissell
Posted by: ezekielmoist

Did anybody commented on her eyes yet? Are they sewed? Are they sewed for a purpose? Sometimes the obvious is the key 

Hi ezekiel,

They are either sewn shut or skin has grown over them.  Why?  And what's with the five stab wounds on them?

So many questions, so little time.  😉

- /< /\ /> -

In a different forum someone mentioned that they looked like a caul, a membrane over the face, rather than being sewn shut.

 
Posted : 16/08/2017 1:57 pm
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Posted by: cyndeewillow
Posted by: Ric Bissell
Posted by: ezekielmoist

Did anybody commented on her eyes yet? Are they sewed? Are they sewed for a purpose? Sometimes the obvious is the key 

Hi ezekiel,

They are either sewn shut or skin has grown over them.  Why?  And what's with the five stab wounds on them?

So many questions, so little time.  😉

- /< /\ /> -

In a different forum someone mentioned that they looked like a caul, a membrane over the face, rather than being sewn shut.

that was me and its actually THIS forum, 5 pages back. lol

 
Posted : 16/08/2017 2:32 pm
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Caul for help!

 
Posted : 16/08/2017 3:32 pm
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