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The scene at RR where Bobby says "today" isn't some sort of time anomaly. It's Lynch cutting the scenes in a particular order that is not linear.
It's not that the town of Twin Peaks is having a space/time anomaly. It's just the way Lynch has chosen to present the scenes to us: out of order.
It might make sense by the time The Return wraps up. Then again, it might not.
So it's more like a "cinematic style" anomaly ? how boring!
Alas, it would seem so.
The movie Dunkirk did the same thing (presented scenes out of order). It's not a gimmick I'm fond of.
I was on the fence about whether the time anomalies were intentional until this last episode. Ed's reflection in the window and Sarah's tv loops made it clear that there is something off with time in TP.
Maybe they just tried to replace crew reflections in the windows? (btw, how is your grandmother?)
What the f*** is going on with the space-time in Twin Peaks?
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Honestly, really, there's nothing wrong with the reflections in Sarah's mirrors. Watch it on a big, high quality screen.
I agree ! (or maybe i start un-seeing things now)
I don't see it either. Watching closely.
As for Sarah's mirrors, I was looking hard to see something (praying to see Bob). I didn't notice anything strange. The scenes though...
Another huge sign the scenes are out of order: At the beginning this week, Becky calls Shelly and is sad that Stephen hasn't come home for two days. Shelly is concerned; she doesn't say, "stay the hell away from that creep and stay with me." But in Ep. 11, we saw Becky try to shoot Stephen!
So yeah, whether it's a supernatural time loop thingamajig or not, scenes are definitely out of order. We're watching a David Lynch movie, not ABC-approved 90s prime-time TV.
I don't think I've detected any out-of-order scenes in other cities so far. (Of course there's no time in the Red Room.)
OMG!! I just figured it out. We see the quick time loop in Sarah Palmer's house. I think all the out-of-order scenes (clues that things are out of order) have occurred in the RR diner. RR Diner = RR = Red Room = timeless. Eh?? Now we need to go back to Rancho Rosa.
Another huge sign the scenes are out of order: At the beginning this week, Becky calls Shelly and is sad that Stephen hasn't come home for two days. Shelly is concerned; she doesn't say, "stay the hell away from that creep and stay with me." But in Ep. 11, we saw Becky try to shoot Stephen!
So yeah, whether it's a supernatural time loop thingamajig or not, scenes are definitely out of order. We're watching a David Lynch movie, not ABC-approved 90s prime-time TV.
I don't think I've detected any out-of-order scenes in other cities so far. (Of course there's no time in the Red Room.)
OMG!! I just figured it out. We see the quick time loop in Sarah Palmer's house. I think all the out-of-order scenes (clues that things are out of order) have occurred in the RR diner. RR Diner = RR = Red Room = timeless. Eh?? Now we need to go back to Rancho Rosa.
Dougie playing catch with Sonny Jim (p12) seems out of order. Dougie was last seen having cherry pie with the Mitchums (p11). Then we get the conga line (1st scene part 13). Playing catch in the middle of those two? I doubt it...
Another huge sign the scenes are out of order: At the beginning this week, Becky calls Shelly and is sad that Stephen hasn't come home for two days. Shelly is concerned; she doesn't say, "stay the hell away from that creep and stay with me." But in Ep. 11, we saw Becky try to shoot Stephen!
While I agree that there's funny stuff going on with the timelines (even if just reordering scenes for effect, if not meaning), I don't think this happened with the Shelly-Becky phonecall. You can see the graze on Shelly's elbow during the call, so this does scene does take place after the Part 11 shenanigans.
Things are definitely out of sequence.
Definitely a lot of layers to peel back here. It seems like timeline/glitches fall into several categories:
1. Visual/auditory glitches that suggest time skipping, looping, or reversing: Sonny Jim and Denise scenes where it looks like they are in reverse; Ed's reflection skipping; big one this week w/ S. Palmer's TV looping; etc.
2. Scenes that seem to be presented out of order to us the audience: As above the shooting we saw with Bobby appears to happen after the scene from this weeks episode with Big Ed (which, also, is apparently the same day that Bobby et all got the info from Major Briggs) ; Sonny Jim and Dougie playing catch seems out of order; the events in Las Vegas etc. not necessarily being showed concurrent with timelines in other places; very first scene of the series which is presumably a fully functional Cooper in the White Lodge (maybe)
3. Special category - WTF glitches that seem to suggest there are multiple realities at play. The biggest one is the glitch in the Double R where the extras change after someone runs in and yells "Anyone seen ----" Arguably, there are a ton of other things that could be explained by this - Audrey and Charlie seem to have completely different power roles between this week and last weeks episode. Some of the apparent discrepancies in timelines could be explained by the fact that we're seeing similar things playing out across different realities (or dissimilar - like, what if the shooting we witness with zombie chick in the car is actually happening at the same "time" just in a different timline - THE DARKEST TIMELINE muahhahaha).
This theory has been gaining a lot of traction - it's kind of bolstered by the discrepancies in the Secret History of Twin Peaks. There are dates and events that occur in there which are verified as incorrect (I mean, like, X person was on a talk show on X date and we know it never happened - in our reality anyway) and I believe Mark Frost even alluded to the fact that things might not be definitively in "our" reality.