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(@carbonglacier)
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Regarding something I believe Lynch said, about being able to watch Twin Peaks: The Return’s parts out of numerical sequence, the latest part has left me wondering if it’s the sequencing is more finely messed up than that.

With the last few parts in particular, it has felt like sequences in the titular town are largely sectioned off from the FBI and Las Vegas threads.

Has anyone already discounted that the numbers that have cropped up might have some chronological significance, down to the level of individual scenes?

Unless Lynch is yanking our chains, it seems like “Is it future or is it past?” and a few other lines of dialogue are rather uncharacteristically literal of him.

 
Posted : 09/08/2017 2:38 pm
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I believe an entire thread in Twin Peaks is being presented in reverse order. 

 
Posted : 09/08/2017 2:47 pm
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Is the FBI thread the only one that’s shown chronologically?

 
Posted : 09/08/2017 4:01 pm
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FBI and Vegas seem to be chronological. The stuff in Twin Peaks, I think is partly chronological. I had been thinking that the scenes relating to Shelly/Becky are the thread that's being shown in reverse but I'm not sure if those are the only ones. I'm wondering if some of the Double-R scenes might be progressing backwards in time, as well (that said, are there any Double-R scenes without Shelly in them at all, anyway? I need to re-watch).

I need to get out my bottle and a bucket of rocks to know any of this for certain. 🙂

 
Posted : 09/08/2017 5:22 pm
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Shelly was not in the RR scene with Bobby this week.

 
Posted : 09/08/2017 5:25 pm
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Posted by: James M Sweeney

FBI and Vegas seem to be chronological. The stuff in Twin Peaks, I think is partly chronological. I had been thinking that the scenes relating to Shelly/Becky are the thread that's being shown in reverse but I'm not sure if those are the only ones. I'm wondering if some of the Double-R scenes might be progressing backwards in time, as well (that said, are there any Double-R scenes without Shelly in them at all, anyway? I need to re-watch).

I need to get out my bottle and a bucket of rocks to know any of this for certain. 🙂

It is very possible that the call Becky made to Shelly in episode 13 actually took place before she shot 6 bullets in Gerstner Hayward's door.

 
Posted : 09/08/2017 5:33 pm
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Posted by: James M Sweeney

FBI and Vegas seem to be chronological. The stuff in Twin Peaks, I think is partly chronological. I had been thinking that the scenes relating to Shelly/Becky are the thread that's being shown in reverse but I'm not sure if those are the only ones. I'm wondering if some of the Double-R scenes might be progressing backwards in time, as well (that said, are there any Double-R scenes without Shelly in them at all, anyway? I need to re-watch).

I need to get out my bottle and a bucket of rocks to know any of this for certain. 🙂

It is very possible that the call Becky made to Shelly in episode 13 actually took place before she shot 6 bullets in Gerstner Hayward's door.

I don't think so. Even though it would make more sense of the conversation and mood, you can actually see the graze on Shelly's elbow when she's talking to Beck on the phone.

 
Posted : 09/08/2017 5:35 pm
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Shelly was not in the RR scene with Bobby this week.

Good point. I'm back to my original belief. 🙂

 
Posted : 09/08/2017 5:36 pm
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Posted by: James M Sweeney

I believe an entire thread in Twin Peaks is being presented in reverse order. 

I'm beginning to wonder about this, also.

Once again, I refer viewers to Iain M Banks, who used to excel at this sort of stuff.  Obviously, in a book it's easier to piece together what's happening and get a handle on things but the sense of dislocation is still there.  In "Use of Weapons", one story track goes forwards, the other in reverse.

 
Posted : 09/08/2017 5:54 pm
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Posted by: James M Sweeney

FBI and Vegas seem to be chronological. The stuff in Twin Peaks, I think is partly chronological. I had been thinking that the scenes relating to Shelly/Becky are the thread that's being shown in reverse but I'm not sure if those are the only ones. I'm wondering if some of the Double-R scenes might be progressing backwards in time, as well (that said, are there any Double-R scenes without Shelly in them at all, anyway? I need to re-watch).

I need to get out my bottle and a bucket of rocks to know any of this for certain. 🙂

Even the Vegas scenes are possibly off. We see Dougie out with the brothers, then we see Dougie get hit with the baseball by Sonny Jim and in this week's episode it shows Dougie coming back from partying with the brothers. 

 
Posted : 09/08/2017 6:03 pm
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