Did Renzo seal his own fate?  

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(@mad-sweeney)
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This is purely speculation, of course, but I'm thinking perhaps if Renzo hadn't hit Mr. C in the back of the head, Mr. C may have simply defeated him and not killed him. Then again, Renzo didn't seem like the type to accept defeat sitting down, so C may have had to kill him anyway if he lost his cool afterwards. Thoughts?

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Posted : 09/08/2017 2:23 pm
(@mj_gilbert)
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Mr. C does not seem to be one to take partial measures (note his claim to the warden that he was not "interested" in him). However, to NOT see that this is a guy who it is a poor idea to gratuitously piss off does not seem like the quality of a perceptive leader.

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Posted : 09/08/2017 2:26 pm
(@100monkeys)
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Posted by: James M Sweeney

This is purely speculation, of course, but I'm thinking perhaps if Renzo hadn't hit Mr. C in the back of the head, Mr. C may have simply defeated him and not killed him. Then again, Renzo didn't seem like the type to accept defeat sitting down, so C may have had to kill him anyway if he lost his cool afterwards. Thoughts?

He was open to show Renzo the "easy way" by showing he is in control. "This is more confortable" as in "we can stop here" even after that hit in the head.  Renzo-douche  choose not to stop and his nose ended in the back of his head.

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Posted : 09/08/2017 2:37 pm
(@samxtherapy)
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Anyone getting in Mr C's way is toast.  I think that was the object lesson, if any.

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Posted : 09/08/2017 2:41 pm
(@mad-sweeney)
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Another lesson we learn as an audience is that Mr. C has a fairly singular focus. He has no interest in being the leader of that warren of thugs. Perhaps they could be useful to him in the future. Nope. They have nothing he wants (he doesn't need anything) at the moment. "Bye guys. School's out."

I wonder if Richard is going to run after him before he gets in his truck and leaves. He looked awestruck enough to do that. 

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Posted : 09/08/2017 2:55 pm
(@samxtherapy)
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Posted by: James M Sweeney

Another lesson we learn as an audience is that Mr. C has a fairly singular focus. He has no interest in being the leader of that warren of thugs. Perhaps they could be useful to him in the future. Nope. They have nothing he wants (he doesn't need anything) at the moment. "Bye guys. School's out."

I wonder if Richard is going to run after him before he gets in his truck and leaves. He looked awestruck enough to do that. 

Awestruck?  Looked about ready to fill his pants, I'd say.

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Posted : 09/08/2017 2:59 pm
(@b-randy)
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It was all a pissing match, starting from the very introduction of the proposed method of resolving conflicts. Arm wrestling, really? Kindergarten stuff.

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Posted : 09/08/2017 3:21 pm
(@100monkeys)
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Renzo did not seal his faith, Mr C did that for him.

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Posted : 09/08/2017 3:24 pm
(@b-randy)
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Posted by: 100monkeys

Renzo did not seal his faith, Mr C did that for him.

Well, yes, technically that is true.

Would Mr. C have been easier on him had Renzo not knocked C in the back of the head saying something like "that's from the nursery school teacher?"

 

Probably not......C was gonna have to erase Renzo either way.......

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Posted : 09/08/2017 3:27 pm
(@octaviolemos)
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Posted by: Brandy Fisher
Posted by: 100monkeys

Renzo did not seal his faith, Mr C did that for him.

Well, yes, technically that is true.

Would Mr. C have been easier on him had Renzo not knocked C in the back of the head saying something like "that's from the nursery school teacher?"

 

Probably not......C was gonna have to erase Renzo either way.......

Well, he had to make his point and make sure the herd would perceive the message. After all he was surrounded by these not very friendly guys with heavy artillery.

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Posted : 09/08/2017 3:35 pm
(@buttercup)
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Ray could have been more forthcoming with information about Mr. C's power.  He should have clued Renzo into the fact that Mr. C is an evil powerhouse.  Ray sealed his own fate as well.

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Posted : 09/08/2017 7:40 pm
(@b-randy)
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Posted by: buttercup

Ray could have been more forthcoming with information about Mr. C's power.  He should have clued Renzo into the fact that Mr. C is an evil powerhouse.  Ray sealed his own fate as well.

Very true although I'm not sure how much Ray actually knew aside from Mr. C being a total badass, and being unkillable.

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Posted : 09/08/2017 8:17 pm
(@samxtherapy)
Detective
Posted by: Brandy Fisher

It was all a pissing match, starting from the very introduction of the proposed method of resolving conflicts. Arm wrestling, really? Kindergarten stuff.

As Karen (I think) mentioned, gangs, by and large, are kindergarten style setups.

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Posted : 09/08/2017 8:23 pm
(@maurice_dumont)
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Posted by: SamXTherapy
Posted by: James M Sweeney

Another lesson we learn as an audience is that Mr. C has a fairly singular focus. He has no interest in being the leader of that warren of thugs. Perhaps they could be useful to him in the future. Nope. They have nothing he wants (he doesn't need anything) at the moment. "Bye guys. School's out."

I wonder if Richard is going to run after him before he gets in his truck and leaves. He looked awestruck enough to do that. 

Awestruck?  Looked about ready to fill his pants, I'd say.

This was a great Luke Skywalker meets Darth Vader scene!

Remember guys, Mr. C is Richard's dad!

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Posted : 09/08/2017 8:34 pm
(@b-randy)
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Posted by: Maurice Dumont

 

Remember guys, Mr. C is Richard's dad!

That has yet to be decided/revealed.

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Posted : 09/08/2017 8:35 pm
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