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(@tomwestervelt77)
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In the scene with Audrey and Charlie, one of the books behind Audrey is Eliot's brilliant work The Four Quartets. I think Eliot may be the key to the idea of time in The Return. The Four Quartets begins with the lines:

     Time present and time past

      Are both perhaps present in time future

      And time future contained in time past.

Could ??????? be TSELIOT?

 
Posted : 02/08/2017 11:06 pm
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Posted by: TomWestervelt77

In the scene with Audrey and Charlie, one of the books behind Audrey is Eliot's brilliant work The Four Quartets. I think Eliot may be the key to the idea of time in The Return. The Four Quartets begins with the lines:

     Time present and time past

      Are both perhaps present in time future

      And time future contained in time past.

Could ??????? be TSELIOT?

Exciting find! No doubt you are truly onto something here ~ although i doubt ????? is TSEliot. 

 
Posted : 02/08/2017 11:13 pm
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Brilliant observation!

 
Posted : 02/08/2017 11:14 pm
(@maurice_dumont)
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And there IS a Chrysta Ball on his desk... 

 
Posted : 03/08/2017 2:21 am
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Good spot, I was trying to decipher what was on the bookshelf myself but didn't get anywhere - do you have a screengrab?

On Charlie's desk is a very large hourglass (I couldn't tell whether the sand was actually flowing or whether it was frozen) as well as a crystal ball.  Both signifiers of time and future.

I still think that Audrey scene was terrible.  The actors clearly didn't have a clue what was going on.

 
Posted : 03/08/2017 4:37 am
(@zhivago99)
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Here is a screenshot of the bookshelf

 
Posted : 03/08/2017 6:39 am
(@gotalight)
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The third section of the first poem also ends with something that sounds eerily like the Woodsman:

 Descend lower, descend only
Into the world of perpetual solitude,
World not world, but that which is not world,
Internal darkness, deprivation
And destitution of all property,
Dessication of the world of sense,
Evacuation of the world of fancy,
Inoperancy of the world of spirit;
This is the one way, and the other
Is the same, not in movement
But abstention from movememnt; while the world moves
In appetency, on its metalled ways
Of time past and time future.

 
Posted : 03/08/2017 6:56 am
(@fumiko)
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Thought he had some frog looking stuff on the shelf behind Audrey as well. 

 

 

 

 

He also had sausage fingers.  

 
Posted : 03/08/2017 7:09 am
(@matt_harris)
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Good theory and I like the T.S. Eliot interpretation, but I thought we established via the Twin Peaks soundtrack that due to the song that was playing at that time called Fireman, that ???????, aka The Giant, was now known by this name.

Putting out the fires, when atomic explosions rending space and time, such as that in Episode 8, happen. The alarm went off and he responded with that glorious floating/creating/sending scene.

 
Posted : 04/08/2017 4:53 am
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Yes but...

"T S Eliot" is an anagram of "Toilets".

Mind you, "Vimto" - a popular soft drink in the UK - is an anagram of "Vomit", so I dunno.

 
Posted : 04/08/2017 7:21 am
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Ironically, one of the other books on the shelf is called 'Happy Times'...

 
Posted : 05/08/2017 3:25 pm
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