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(@samxtherapy)
Detective

You aren't going to get any answers until the end.  Even then, you won't get all the answers and you may not like the answers you get.

Lynch and Frost ain't like that and besides, each episode is not a self contained capsule of "Story", this is an 18 hour movie.  Forget the regular episode driven dramas that are usually shown, where there's a neat and tidy hour's worth of stuff within a plot arc; this is something else and every section needs to be viewed in that context.

Fustrating?  Maybe, in the same way as a well written book you can't stop reading.  The difference here is you have to wait another week before you can turn the page.

Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum

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Posted : 31/07/2017 11:31 am
Caoimhín Shirey, Josh Eldridge, FWWM and 27 people liked
(@artie42)
Dweller

Agreed!

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Posted : 31/07/2017 11:38 am
(@mad-sweeney)
Roadhouse Regular

If TP was released all at once there would be far fewer complaints, I expect. Waiting a month or more between one conversation/event/scene and the next time it's even remotely relevant is tiresome to a viewer.

I started watching during the week of episode 9, IIRC. I watched all 9 episodes and then was ready for 10. It was wonderful. The weeks between 9 and 10, then 10 and 11, then 11 and 12 have been difficult. If not for the lively conversation around this table called welcometotwinpeaks, I may have just decided to wait until the end and watch it all in a binge.

When you've already waited a week (or month) for a particular plot movement it can become frustrating to wait even longer.

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Posted : 31/07/2017 11:42 am
(@mj_gilbert)
Deputy

Agreed. I DO continue to believe that DL knows EXACTLY what he is doing, and that,m in episodes like this, we are likely to be screaming at the screen. I think he WANTS that. I think it AMUSES him. I am HAPPY to amuse him.

And as stated elsewhere, I do not think that it is at ALL random that Audrey is the first person who really seems to be IMPATIENT, and who LOSES it in her impatience with the glacial pace of...things. I really do think she is a stand-in for the audience here. And that is amazing.

I AM the FBI.

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Posted : 31/07/2017 11:42 am
(@maurice_dumont)
Dweller

This is

a) a post-modern way of storytelling: fragmented and the viewer has to work hard to make sense of it all

b) an intentional tribute to the way the original Twin Peaks was released, weekly, with lots of cliffhangers. Only difference is that you couldn't rewatch an episode then. The second opportunity I had to watch each of the episodes was when the vhs-edition hit the local video rent. 

So stop complaining, you spoiled brats. 

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Posted : 31/07/2017 11:52 am
Time jumper, FWWM, Rick Rodriguez and 10 people liked
(@spyros)
RR Diner Patron

I agree!

If someone expects everything to be answered well, they are watching the wrong show, although some important things must be explained and they will.

But how about another season! if Lynch, Frost, actors and showtime are all on the same page, lets do it, lets rock!

Also, these random RR people and mini stories could relate to one another or to the story at some point.

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Posted : 31/07/2017 11:58 am
(@klynched)
RR Diner Patron

Actually, I think we've had quite a lot of answers, considering. Or may be they'll turn out not to be. That'd be cool too.

And unlike a lot of people, I really enjoyed feeling - for the first time really, properly - that I was in the middle of an 18-part film during part 12. I have no idea why, but even with its odd meanderings and disparate scenes I could feel connection to a before and after.

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Posted : 31/07/2017 11:58 am
(@groofay)
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Agreed.

I see a lot of moaning about "filler" and things being overly drawn-out on here, previously also but especially this week. But over ten years ago, there was this really long film called "Inland Empire" that seemed to thrive on dream logic, hanging plot* threads, and glacially slow dialogue. This is the Lynch style. You sign up for it by watching. That is all.

By the way, this isn't me saying "You don't get Lynch!!1" This is me saying that the people who are complaining tend to complain about things they might have already known going in. And with the internet the way it is these days, the excuses (and my sympathy) are wearing thin.

 

*such as it is

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Posted : 31/07/2017 12:09 pm
(@samxtherapy)
Detective

What's the average movie these days?  120 minutes or so, right?  So, multiply that by 9 and figure that the last 15-20 minutes of the average movie are where things start to get wrapped up.

I reckon we'll be getting some answers in the last 2 episodes, which may well be why they are being shown together.

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Posted : 31/07/2017 12:13 pm
(@artie42)
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Posted : 31/07/2017 12:20 pm
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(@mj_gilbert)
Deputy
Posted by: Maurice Dumont

This is

a) a post-modern way of storytelling: fragmented and the viewer has to work hard to make sense of it all

b) an intentional tribute to the way the original Twin Peaks was released, weekly, with lots of cliffhangers. Only difference is that you couldn't rewatch an episode then. The second opportunity I had to watch each of the episodes was when the vhs-edition hit the local video rent. 

So stop complaining, you spoiled brats. 

I taped each episode of the original as it was broadcast, and re-watched obsessively!

I AM the FBI.

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Posted : 31/07/2017 12:22 pm
(@badalamenti-fan)
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Posted by: groofay

Agreed.

I see a lot of moaning about "filler" and things being overly drawn-out on here, previously also but especially this week. But over ten years ago, there was this really long film called "Inland Empire" that seemed to thrive on dream logic, hanging plot* threads, and glacially slow dialogue. This is the Lynch style. You sign up for it by watching. That is all.

By the way, this isn't me saying "You don't get Lynch!!1" This is me saying that the people who are complaining tend to complain about things they might have already known going in. And with the internet the way it is these days, the excuses (and my sympathy) are wearing thin.

 

*such as it is

Yup! In an effort to satisfy my mid-week cravings for more of The Return, I have been re-watching Inland Empire very deliberately (and in fairly small portions)....  I have to admit that I find it much more enjoyable/fascinating now that we've seen where Lynch has found himself a decade later in The Return.  It's also Laura Dern's most extraordinary performance with David Lynch, IMO.

 And:  Grace Zibriskie's character in Inland Empire  now appears to be a precedent for Sarah Palmer's haunting/ haunting decline.

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Posted : 31/07/2017 12:27 pm
(@groofay)
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Posted by: Badalamenti Fan
Posted by: groofay

Agreed.

I see a lot of moaning about "filler" and things being overly drawn-out on here, previously also but especially this week. But over ten years ago, there was this really long film called "Inland Empire" that seemed to thrive on dream logic, hanging plot* threads, and glacially slow dialogue. This is the Lynch style. You sign up for it by watching. That is all.

By the way, this isn't me saying "You don't get Lynch!!1" This is me saying that the people who are complaining tend to complain about things they might have already known going in. And with the internet the way it is these days, the excuses (and my sympathy) are wearing thin.

 

*such as it is

Yup! In an effort to satisfy my mid-week cravings for more of The Return, I have been re-watching Inland Empire very deliberately (and in fairly small portions)....  I have to admit that I find it much more enjoyable/fascinating now that we've seen where Lynch has found himself a decade later in The Return.  It's also Laura Dern's most extraordinary performance with David Lynch, IMO.

 And:  Grace Zibriskie's character in Inland Empire  now appears to be a precedent for Sarah Palmer's haunting/ haunting decline.

Agreed that IE is a genuinely extraordinary performance by Laura Dern. She and Lynch really know how to make something incredible by now.

But yes, Grace Zabriskie's scenes last night were fascinating. I was constantly being reminded of "BRUTAL FAUGH-KING MURDER" and all that bizarre, rambling dialogue she engages in. A really interesting progression there.

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Posted : 31/07/2017 12:38 pm
 Zach
(@zach)
Town Visitor

In a way I like the discussion after a brand new episode. Theories people are coming up with are pretty incredible.  I don't do a lot with my FB, but with Twin Peaks it is completely exploding. The first few days it is pretty entertaining reading all kinds of theories ranging from brilliant to silly. After a certain amount of days it becomes kinda tedious and repetitious. The same themes and theories are showing up and at certain point I just stop and let my mind rest. Then I'm eagerly waiting for my next fix of Twin Peaks. 

It wouldn't be the same when it is binge-watched. There is just too much to process to fully appreciate it. Moreover the TP community just gives that little bit extra and makes this Twin Peaks season really an event. I do consider this season an 18-hour film, but yeah Inland Empire took me three viewings to finish and to appreciate it. 

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Posted : 31/07/2017 12:44 pm
(@badalamenti-fan)
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Posted by: groofay
Posted by: Badalamenti Fan
Posted by: groofay

Agreed.

I see a lot of moaning about "filler" and things being overly drawn-out on here, previously also but especially this week. But over ten years ago, there was this really long film called "Inland Empire" that seemed to thrive on dream logic, hanging plot* threads, and glacially slow dialogue. This is the Lynch style. You sign up for it by watching. That is all.

By the way, this isn't me saying "You don't get Lynch!!1" This is me saying that the people who are complaining tend to complain about things they might have already known going in. And with the internet the way it is these days, the excuses (and my sympathy) are wearing thin.

 

*such as it is

Yup! In an effort to satisfy my mid-week cravings for more of The Return, I have been re-watching Inland Empire very deliberately (and in fairly small portions)....  I have to admit that I find it much more enjoyable/fascinating now that we've seen where Lynch has found himself a decade later in The Return.  It's also Laura Dern's most extraordinary performance with David Lynch, IMO.

 And:  Grace Zibriskie's character in Inland Empire  now appears to be a precedent for Sarah Palmer's haunting/ haunting decline.

Agreed that IE is a genuinely extraordinary performance by Laura Dern. She and Lynch really know how to make something incredible by now.

But yes, Grace Zabriskie's scenes last night were fascinating. I was constantly being reminded of "BRUTAL FAUGH-KING MURDER" and all that bizarre, rambling dialogue she engages in. A really interesting progression there.

Right?!! The scariest single line in all of Lynch's work, I think.

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Posted : 31/07/2017 12:54 pm
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