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Posted by: Myn0k
Posted by: Ruskinowl
Posted by: SamXTherapy
Posted by: Ruskinowl
Posted by: SamXTherapy

I wouldn't say so but - and this is a reminder to myself as much as anyone else - we could all benefit from being more tolerant of each other's opinions, whether we agree or not.

Nonsense! How very dare you have an opinion that differs from that of mine own! My words are omniscient and that'll be the end of it. So there 😉

You smell of chips and bum. 😛

You smell of James Hurley's voice!

I find that as offensive as when Donna tried to act sexy by blowing smoke into James' face while he was behind bars, even though in reality it would have really stank. James was probably thinking "god, she's got real fag-ash breath", while Donna's thinking "yeah, I'm really cool, I bet he loves me now for doing that - smooth move, Donna Dawg."

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Wearing Laura's sunglasses affected her.

Fire Walk With Me

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Posted : 02/08/2017 1:34 am
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Deputy
Posted by: Badalamenti Fan
Posted by: SamXTherapy

 Reading through some of the other threads I think it's not so much "You don't get Lynch" as "You don't get the format".

Just for clarity:

Of course it's not perfect.  Nothing is, especially something as new and different as this.  I don't think anyone has ever tried something as big and ambitious in visual media before now.  The nearest I can think are some of the Bollywood movies at 4 plus hours and they're just painful.  That said, I'll settle for not perfect but a damn sight better than any other tv show or movie - given the size, scope and complexity - over the run of the mill franchise show any day.

C.f. the metaphor of 'creamed corn' re: predigested content/entertainment, no?

Whatever you envision of it, creamed corn is just corn that is mashed, nothing added, and it is not predigested ( ewww ).

Fire Walk With Me

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Posted : 02/08/2017 1:44 am
(@karen_paynter)
Deputy
Posted by: SamXTherapy
Posted by: Ruskinowl
Posted by: SamXTherapy

I wouldn't say so but - and this is a reminder to myself as much as anyone else - we could all benefit from being more tolerant of each other's opinions, whether we agree or not.

Nonsense! How very dare you have an opinion that differs from that of mine own! My words are omniscient and that'll be the end of it. So there 😉

You smell of chips and bum. 😛

Translation: fries and, I'm guessing, derriere.

Fire Walk With Me

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Posted : 02/08/2017 1:50 am
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Posted by: Karen
Posted by: SamXTherapy
Posted by: Ruskinowl
Posted by: SamXTherapy

I wouldn't say so but - and this is a reminder to myself as much as anyone else - we could all benefit from being more tolerant of each other's opinions, whether we agree or not.

Nonsense! How very dare you have an opinion that differs from that of mine own! My words are omniscient and that'll be the end of it. So there 😉

You smell of chips and bum. 😛

Translation: fries and, I'm guessing, derriere.

Quite so, Deputy Karen. ?

Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum

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Posted : 02/08/2017 6:08 am
(@ranmacmh)
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Grace is a powerhouse.  I love her scenes, and she dominates the beginning of the original Pilot.  I think she OWNED that episode and I was thrilled to see her interpretation of Sarah after 25 years.

I was describing The Return to someone as a puzzle box, like the puzzle box Andrew, Pete, and Catherine obsessed over.  The show is an interactive mystery, and if you solve it you find another mystery inside that one.  You keep coming back and fixating on it because of the fun of seeing if you can open the box, and knowing there's more to do once you get farther in doesn't spoil the fun.  But if you don't like puzzle boxes you are free to put it down and step away any time you like. 

Hopefully we don't all get blown up at the end.  But it's a distinct possibility too.

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Posted : 02/08/2017 2:47 pm
 Jack
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God bless Grace Zabriskie.  What an amazing actress in everything she has ever done.  The world needs Grace Zabriskie.

And Christen, your idea about Twin Peaks being like a puzzle box is absolutely brilliant and spot-on.

So many unresolved threads and unanswered questions, leading to an infinite number of paths to follow.  I hope everyone else is having as much as we are trying to solve mysteries that will probably be unsolvable, as they were meant to be.

I'm so saddened that there are so many people on this board who aren't enjoying the ride and appreciating that this is multilayered television programming unlike anything television has ever seen before.

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Posted : 02/08/2017 2:51 pm
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Posted by: Karen
Posted by: Badalamenti Fan
Posted by: SamXTherapy

 Reading through some of the other threads I think it's not so much "You don't get Lynch" as "You don't get the format".

Just for clarity:

Of course it's not perfect.  Nothing is, especially something as new and different as this.  I don't think anyone has ever tried something as big and ambitious in visual media before now.  The nearest I can think are some of the Bollywood movies at 4 plus hours and they're just painful.  That said, I'll settle for not perfect but a damn sight better than any other tv show or movie - given the size, scope and complexity - over the run of the mill franchise show any day.

C.f. the metaphor of 'creamed corn' re: predigested content/entertainment, no?

Whatever you envision of it, creamed corn is just corn that is mashed, nothing added, and it is not predigested ( ewww ).

Of course it is.  But we agree garmonbozia is a metaphor, right?

A metaphor refracted through anxieties about industry, if we take Part 8 into account.

 

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Posted : 02/08/2017 2:53 pm
(@chris_gorgon)
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Grace Z's line reading of "It's a godd*** bad story, isn't it Hawk?" was chilling.

Also felt like it had layers of meaning, like just about everything else involving Sarah Palmer in this ep.

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Posted : 02/08/2017 3:13 pm
(@caoimhin)
Detective
Posted by: SamXTherapy

 Reading through some of the other threads I think it's not so much "You don't get Lynch" as "You don't get the format".

Just for clarity:

Of course it's not perfect.  Nothing is, especially something as new and different as this.  I don't think anyone has ever tried something as big and ambitious in visual media before now.  The nearest I can think are some of the Bollywood movies at 4 plus hours and they're just painful.  That said, I'll settle for not perfect but a damn sight better than any other tv show or movie - given the size, scope and complexity - over the run of the mill franchise show any day.

While I agree, have you ever watched Mathew Barney's The Cremaster Cycle or attended one of the viewings? Fairly big and ambitious visual media project. I was lucky enough (though many would consider it unlucky) to attend viewings of each part while living in Chicago. Also watched carefully selected portions in art history class. It's not for everyone (sound familiar 😉 and will definitely not grace the television via Showtime anytime soon. It's also only about half the length of The Return in terms of running time.

http://www.cremaster.net/

Much of it is available on YouTube nowadays. Here's the trailer: 

An aside, much like your music analogy discussion thread, this one is equally as good. Nice original post. 

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Posted : 03/08/2017 3:31 am
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