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(@pred80r)
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I don't know how many of you read the 25 years later site but I came across this devastating theory, that makes a lot of sense and has very few holes in it:

https://25yearslatersite.com/2017/10/24/reincarnation-the-return-part-3-ding-dong-coopers-dead/

When you start processing layers of hell and reliving moments on earth this really starts to put the pieces into place.

But the whole thing makes TPTR even sadder than it was before so be warned!

 
Posted : 30/10/2017 1:06 am
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Wow Jack Wow!

I guess the final dossier will prove if this is right. ... perhaps 

 
Posted : 30/10/2017 5:26 am
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To add even more merit to this theory:

    1. Agent cooper is shot in Season 1 episode 7-8 and he sees the fireman.

    2. David Lynch has already shown his interest in tibetan death (and life) theories, case in point Tulpa's and he is heavily into transcendental meditation.

    3. 25 years in limbo or hell could be 1 second or 1 millenium.

    4. If you haven't seen it, watch "Brain Dead" with Bill Pullman.  I am sure David Lynch has...

Things start coming together when you look at it this way, but as I said it is a very sad conclusion.

 

 

 
Posted : 30/10/2017 2:57 pm
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Jack, you must be a barrel of laughs at parties with that sunny disposition of yours. 😉

I've seen another theory similar to this although not as in depth.  It's as good as any other theory, better than a lot even and entirely plausible. I however feel there ate still many holes. 

1. It doesn't answer your question, why would Cooper take her home where she is being raped and tormented. That is not saving Laura, only extending her pain.

2. It doesn't account for EVERYBODY else.  Audrey, Sarah, Bobby, all the new characters, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. Yes this story was mostly about Dale, but it was not ALL about Dale.

3. I'm failing to see how Dougie and family fit in.  The explanation did not quite fit for me.

If this explanation is the answer, I have a hard time, or in your words, I'm not buying it, that Dale died when he got shot. Maybe when he entered the lodge, but too much happened after he got shot for it all to be part of his "death dream." He fell in love, he faced an old nemesis, and everybody else had their own stories too. I don't see all of that as being attachments of SA Dale Cooper.

Anyhow, thank you for sharing.  Every option is helpful.

 

 
Posted : 30/10/2017 4:38 pm
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I posted a thread on here a few weeks ago that I think got deleted in the hack, about Cooper possibly becoming "non-existent" at the end. I think the writer of the theory above is seeing and feeling much of the same thing as myself, but coming to a different conclusion. As the poster above mentioned, how can you fit elements like 1944 in to that theory? I think often with these theories the writers are focussing too narrowly on explaining "the end" instead of looking thematically at the whole season, missing the wood for the trees.

As I said though, I think a case can be made that Cooper was threatened with non-existence by the Arm Doppelganger (the true nature of which we don't really know - although its yellow head evokes rotting to me) and it may have made good on its threat in the final episodes, with Cooper being tricked ("Did you ask me this?"), taunted ("We own this house,") and finally, destroyed / trapped.

 
Posted : 30/10/2017 6:30 pm
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Posted by: Brandy Fisher

Jack, you must be a barrel of laughs at parties with that sunny disposition of yours. 😉

I've seen another theory similar to this although not as in depth.  It's as good as any other theory, better than a lot even and entirely plausible. I however feel there ate still many holes. 

1. It doesn't answer your question, why would Cooper take her home where she is being raped and tormented. That is not saving Laura, only extending her pain.

2. It doesn't account for EVERYBODY else.  Audrey, Sarah, Bobby, all the new characters, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. Yes this story was mostly about Dale, but it was not ALL about Dale.

3. I'm failing to see how Dougie and family fit in.  The explanation did not quite fit for me.

If this explanation is the answer, I have a hard time, or in your words, I'm not buying it, that Dale died when he got shot. Maybe when he entered the lodge, but too much happened after he got shot for it all to be part of his "death dream." He fell in love, he faced an old nemesis, and everybody else had their own stories too. I don't see all of that as being attachments of SA Dale Cooper.

Anyhow, thank you for sharing.  Every option is helpful.

 

My answer to point 1 whenever its raised is that Cooper is heading towards the Fireman's house, and he is actually Laura's father (spits her out in the same way The Experiment spits out the eggs). 

In episode 18 he's taking her to the Palmer house but the circumstances are different: A) he wants her to remember who she really is, and B) he's aware that it's the present day (or thereabouts) and Leland doesn't live there anymore.

 
Posted : 30/10/2017 6:33 pm
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Posted by: Brandy Fisher

Jack, you must be a barrel of laughs at parties with that sunny disposition of yours. 😉

I've seen another theory similar to this although not as in depth.  It's as good as any other theory, better than a lot even and entirely plausible. I however feel there ate still many holes. 

1. It doesn't answer your question, why would Cooper take her home where she is being raped and tormented. That is not saving Laura, only extending her pain.

2. It doesn't account for EVERYBODY else.  Audrey, Sarah, Bobby, all the new characters, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. Yes this story was mostly about Dale, but it was not ALL about Dale.

3. I'm failing to see how Dougie and family fit in.  The explanation did not quite fit for me.

If this explanation is the answer, I have a hard time, or in your words, I'm not buying it, that Dale died when he got shot. Maybe when he entered the lodge, but too much happened after he got shot for it all to be part of his "death dream." He fell in love, he faced an old nemesis, and everybody else had their own stories too. I don't see all of that as being attachments of SA Dale Cooper.

Anyhow, thank you for sharing.  Every option is helpful.

 

Yes, Twin Peaks has made me as fun as a barrel of monkeys!

Seriously, still fighting Twin Peaks depression

I completely agree that there are holes, I just mentioned that there are less holes than other theories.

I also remembered that Bill Pullman was in "Lost Highway" so I am quite sure Lynch has seen "Brain Dead" and thus I am leaning towards the death dream theory...I guess we still need to know who the dreamer is.

And Cooper, much like Sisyphus...keeps taking Laura (in any version) back to the Palmer residence, only to fail in a different way each time.  

 
Posted : 30/10/2017 10:43 pm
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Not to revive something that we already know a little more about thanks to Final Dossier, but I will say that I see Cooper as more of the Gilgamesh character.

If I had to pin down Cooper's story (and now Richard), I would say it's eerily similar to Gilgamesh. That, and we know about Judy/Bob...

 
Posted : 19/12/2017 5:26 pm
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Posted by: Jack Dean
Posted by: Brandy Fisher

Jack, you must be a barrel of laughs at parties with that sunny disposition of yours. 😉

I've seen another theory similar to this although not as in depth.  It's as good as any other theory, better than a lot even and entirely plausible. I however feel there ate still many holes. 

1. It doesn't answer your question, why would Cooper take her home where she is being raped and tormented. That is not saving Laura, only extending her pain.

2. It doesn't account for EVERYBODY else.  Audrey, Sarah, Bobby, all the new characters, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. Yes this story was mostly about Dale, but it was not ALL about Dale.

3. I'm failing to see how Dougie and family fit in.  The explanation did not quite fit for me.

If this explanation is the answer, I have a hard time, or in your words, I'm not buying it, that Dale died when he got shot. Maybe when he entered the lodge, but too much happened after he got shot for it all to be part of his "death dream." He fell in love, he faced an old nemesis, and everybody else had their own stories too. I don't see all of that as being attachments of SA Dale Cooper.

Anyhow, thank you for sharing.  Every option is helpful.

 

Yes, Twin Peaks has made me as fun as a barrel of monkeys!

Seriously, still fighting Twin Peaks depression

I completely agree that there are holes, I just mentioned that there are less holes than other theories.

I also remembered that Bill Pullman was in "Lost Highway" so I am quite sure Lynch has seen "Brain Dead" and thus I am leaning towards the death dream theory...I guess we still need to know who the dreamer is.

And Cooper, much like Sisyphus...keeps taking Laura (in any version) back to the Palmer residence, only to fail in a different way each time.  

I suppose it makes a change from rolling a boulder up a hill. 😉

 
Posted : 20/12/2017 4:50 am
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