How to put this... I guess I tend to think that Bob doesn't so much have concrete desires as a general desire to increase the pain and sorrow in the world, for him to feed on. Thus, I don't ever let Leland off the hook - it was his desire to have sex with his daughter that Bob perhaps amplified, but didn't create. So, I think what Mr. C wants stems from Cooper, and Cole's bit about this plan to find Judy bolsters this thought for me. Both Coopers want to find Judy, and we aren't told why. We might want to think that the Good Coop wants to destroy her, while the Bad Coop wants to pull a Windom Earle or something, but I like the ambiguity - this fascination with an extreme negative force. I find an analogy to the invention of the Bomb. Mostly, the scientists just wanted to see if they could do it.
That matches with the line from Laura's diary (if i recall correctly), something like: "I know it's not Bob now. I know it's him."
The Leland issue is a controversial one but one that I have often held to be at least partly if not all true. However, I think to gloss over the horrors of incest and rape, they masked it with it all being pure Bob.
The big tell IMHO was the interaction between Cooper and Truman after Leland dies where Truman says that he doesn't believe what has just happened and Cooper responds with "Is it easier to believe a man would rape and murder his own daughter?" I always felt this question was posed more at the audience than at Truman.
How to put this... I guess I tend to think that Bob doesn't so much have concrete desires as a general desire to increase the pain and sorrow in the world, for him to feed on. Thus, I don't ever let Leland off the hook - it was his desire to have sex with his daughter that Bob perhaps amplified, but didn't create. So, I think what Mr. C wants stems from Cooper, and Cole's bit about this plan to find Judy bolsters this thought for me. Both Coopers want to find Judy, and we aren't told why. We might want to think that the Good Coop wants to destroy her, while the Bad Coop wants to pull a Windom Earle or something, but I like the ambiguity - this fascination with an extreme negative force. I find an analogy to the invention of the Bomb. Mostly, the scientists just wanted to see if they could do it.
That matches with the line from Laura's diary (if i recall correctly), something like: "I know it's not Bob now. I know it's him."
The Leland issue is a controversial one but one that I have often held to be at least partly if not all true. However, I think to gloss over the horrors of incest and rape, they masked it with it all being pure Bob.
The big tell IMHO was the interaction between Cooper and Truman after Leland dies where Truman says that he doesn't believe what has just happened and Cooper responds with "Is it easier to believe a man would rape and murder his own daughter?" I always felt this question was posed more at the audience than at Truman.
And then Briggs says something like, "An evil so great in this beautiful world, does it matter what the cause?" Cooper says, "Yes, because it is our job to stop it." And then Briggs mutters, "Yeah" and walks away.
I agree it is a key scene with regard to the question, but I think it points to a both/and kind of interpretation: it is both Bob and a father who raped and murdered his daughter, with the implicit commentary that we would rather, it seems, believe it to be Bob. The fictional/metaphysical explanation is somehow more comforting than accepting the fact that we live in a world where things like this happen and there's no Bob to blame.
How to put this... I guess I tend to think that Bob doesn't so much have concrete desires as a general desire to increase the pain and sorrow in the world, for him to feed on. Thus, I don't ever let Leland off the hook - it was his desire to have sex with his daughter that Bob perhaps amplified, but didn't create. So, I think what Mr. C wants stems from Cooper, and Cole's bit about this plan to find Judy bolsters this thought for me. Both Coopers want to find Judy, and we aren't told why. We might want to think that the Good Coop wants to destroy her, while the Bad Coop wants to pull a Windom Earle or something, but I like the ambiguity - this fascination with an extreme negative force. I find an analogy to the invention of the Bomb. Mostly, the scientists just wanted to see if they could do it.
That matches with the line from Laura's diary (if i recall correctly), something like: "I know it's not Bob now. I know it's him."
The Leland issue is a controversial one but one that I have often held to be at least partly if not all true. However, I think to gloss over the horrors of incest and rape, they masked it with it all being pure Bob.
The big tell IMHO was the interaction between Cooper and Truman after Leland dies where Truman says that he doesn't believe what has just happened and Cooper responds with "Is it easier to believe a man would rape and murder his own daughter?" I always felt this question was posed more at the audience than at Truman.
And then Briggs says something like, "An evil so great in this beautiful world, does it matter what the cause?" Cooper says, "Yes, because it is our job to stop it." And then Briggs mutters, "Yeah" and walks away.
I agree it is a key scene with regard to the question, but I think it points to a both/and kind of interpretation: it is both Bob and a father who raped and murdered his daughter, with the implicit commentary that we would rather, it seems, believe it to be Bob. The fictional/metaphysical explanation is somehow more comforting than accepting the fact that we live in a world where things like this happen and there's no Bob to blame.
Of course! Everyone would rather believe it was Bob and this leads into my theory about whether Lynch is a misogynist or not (which I still don't think he is). He portrays the world not only as he sees it, cruel and unfair to women and girls, but also as an alternative, how he would like to see it, something cosmic and deeply evil causing so much pain and suffering instead of the reality that we just do these wretched things to each other.
Makes me think of the Polish accountant. I found that scene deeply troubling. Every one of 7 people there happened to have a gun. Is he a hero because he did that to bad people? Or was he a monster? Peacemaker or psychopath? Maybe it's just a comment about Las Vegas. Szymon's pies is also a Polish name. hm.
Makes me think of the Polish accountant. I found that scene deeply troubling. Every one of 7 people there happened to have a gun. Is he a hero because he did that to bad people? Or was he a monster? Peacemaker or psychopath? Maybe it's just a comment about Las Vegas. Szymon's pies is also a Polish name. hm.
People are under a lot of stress, Joseph.
Makes me think of the Polish accountant. I found that scene deeply troubling. Every one of 7 people there happened to have a gun. Is he a hero because he did that to bad people? Or was he a monster? Peacemaker or psychopath? Maybe it's just a comment about Las Vegas. Szymon's pies is also a Polish name. hm.
He's just a guy who wants to get into his driveway, neither good nor bad. Can't say I would react any better. ?
As for the guns, don't all of us 'merican carry guns at all times?
Makes me think of the Polish accountant. I found that scene deeply troubling. Every one of 7 people there happened to have a gun. Is he a hero because he did that to bad people? Or was he a monster? Peacemaker or psychopath? Maybe it's just a comment about Las Vegas. Szymon's pies is also a Polish name. hm.
He's just a guy who wants to get into his driveway, neither good nor bad. Can't say I would react any better. ?
As for the guns, don't all of us 'merican carry guns at all times?
Well Since I live in California and it is IMPOSSIBLE to get a CCW permit here,I am going to have to respond to this comment with:
Only when it is legal....
Makes me think of the Polish accountant. I found that scene deeply troubling. Every one of 7 people there happened to have a gun. Is he a hero because he did that to bad people? Or was he a monster? Peacemaker or psychopath? Maybe it's just a comment about Las Vegas. Szymon's pies is also a Polish name. hm.
He's just a guy who wants to get into his driveway, neither good nor bad. Can't say I would react any better. ?
As for the guns, don't all of us 'merican carry guns at all times?
Well Since I live in California and it is IMPOSSIBLE to get a CCW permit here,I am going to have to respond to this comment with:
Only when it is legal....
I remember this convo right after the episode aired. It was quite.....toasty. You could definitely see the difference between the regions/continents and cultures.
Fire walk with