I've read many theories saying that the Giant created Laura to fight Bob. I think this is a pretty easy way to read this scene of part 8. Good vs Evil plot it would be too flat and silly to be a Lynch idea.
I see that no one remember this from the original run, please watch the video, this is very important...
https://youtu.be/RJsBZGtOmBQ?t=1m28s .
The little man from another place says that "She's my cousin, but doesn't she look almost exactly Laura Palmer?".
Then, it could be that this was the real creation of the Giant, not the "real" Laura but her "protector" aka the Angel in the end scene of FWWM (not so sure about the angel, btw). The lady in a black dress in the Waiting Room is NOT Laura Palmer but a spirit of the lodge maybe created to protect Laura from Bob, to prevent Laura to be possessed by Bob, she could be the ring that protects from Bob possession!
I think that the fact that Philip Michael Gerard has a Red Lodge "alter ego" gives strength to this theory: "The cousin" is Laura alter ego spirit in the lodge as well as Mike is Gerard alter ego spirit. Last but not least, we see Laura ascend to Heaven/Paradise/White Lodge so it would be pretty illogical imagining it's really her in the Red Lodge, in fact we never met Theresa Bank nor Maddy but only people like Leland who have been possessed by Bob. So why this girl should be Laura?
P.S. This is just a suggestion, it could be that Maddy was created on purpose by the spirits of the lodge like Dougie?
I like your ideas, but RED Lodge is what stroke me the most. I never knew for sure whether the red room was the actual Black Lodge (where Windom Earle wanted to go and where you may be confronted by your shadow self, as Hawk said), or if it was only a waiting room between the world we know and the Black and White lodges. Annie calls it a Lodge, though, and since from what I remember she had no clue about all this supernatural stuff before being taken there, I take it her knoweldge of it is supernatural too, therefore to be trusted. But then if it's the Black Lodge, what are reformed MIKE and The (good) Arm doing there? Anyway, could you expand on your idea of RED Lodge, please Phill?
The commonly held theory is it's called the Red Room, and it's the waiting room that connects to the Black and White Lodge (hence the black and white flooring). Also because this place seems to be neutral where bith evil and good spirits could be in.
I don't think Lynch ever confirmed this, though.
I don't think Black Lodge and Red Lodge are the same thing. Red Lodge is some kind of waiting room, it's the world of the shadows accordingly to Hawk, a world that confines doppelgangers. It's a representation of the Unconscious.
In the Red Lodge, we found only dead people who have been possessed by Bob. I guess they are in some kind of "purification process" in order to go to the White Lodge. We see Leland there, but we don't see Theresa Banks or Maddy, right? So why Laura should be in the Red Lodge if she doesn't need any purification?
She was never possessed by Bob.
Posted by: PhillJeffriesTPShe was never possessed by Bob
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR5ZZrnXqe8
Surely this suggests that in a sense, she was.
I always thought there was only the Black and White Lodge and that the red room was a waiting room between the Black and White Lodge. The black and white zig zag lines in the red room represent the 2 lodges.
I also have never before heard of the red lodge. Only the black lodge, the white lodge and the waiting room.
As for Laura having ever been possessed, I am often confused by this. She says she won't let him in, but there are moments when Bob certainly seems to be in there, like the clip posted above. There is also the scene at Harold's when she is giving him the diary to hide. I can't find a clip of it. I'm hoping that you all know the scene I'm talking about or a more tech savvy and patient fan can post it.
Not sure if this was actual possession or maybe it's just Bob trying to peak through the cracks in her armor. What do you all think?
I also have never before heard of the red lodge. Only the black lodge, the white lodge and the waiting room.
As for Laura having ever been possessed, I am often confused by this. She says she won't let him in, but there are moments when Bob certainly seems to be in there, like the clip posted above. There is also the scene at Harold's when she is giving him the diary to hide. I can't find a clip of it. I'm hoping that you all know the scene I'm talking about or a more tech savvy and patient fan can post it.
Not sure if this was actual possession or maybe it's just Bob trying to peak through the cracks in her armor. What do you all think?
I always thought Bob could only possess 1 person at a time. If this is true, then maybe Laura grinning at the fan was just Bob bringing out the evil in her. If it isn't true, then maybe Hastings was possessed by Bob during his murders.
Red Lodge is just a slip from the Waiting Room / Red Room.
One thing I wanna point out is that the evil spirits can reform, like Mike. With that in mind, I've a 40% suspicion that the Purple Sea and the Tower below the Red Room and the Red Room are all part of the Black Lodge.
I also have never before heard of the red lodge. Only the black lodge, the white lodge and the waiting room.
As for Laura having ever been possessed, I am often confused by this. She says she won't let him in, but there are moments when Bob certainly seems to be in there, like the clip posted above. There is also the scene at Harold's when she is giving him the diary to hide. I can't find a clip of it. I'm hoping that you all know the scene I'm talking about or a more tech savvy and patient fan can post it.
Not sure if this was actual possession or maybe it's just Bob trying to peak through the cracks in her armor. What do you all think?
Bob had an influence on her, enough that she feared Donna wearing her stuff, & following her path ( she has Jacques help her get Donna out of the wild Canada club & back home ). He was still using Leland's body, wanting to perform a ritual & take over her body instead ( Mike throws her the ring and putting it on thwarts Bob's plan ).
I think the purple sea & room are a kind of limbo.
I always thought there was only the Black and White Lodge and that the red room was a waiting room between the Black and White Lodge. The black and white zig zag lines in the red room represent the 2 lodges.
I always understood it to be a Waiting Room as in, "this is the room where you're going to wait for the next 25 years." Lynch often speaks in literal terms but there's usually a secondary meaning as well.
I also have never before heard of the red lodge. Only the black lodge, the white lodge and the waiting room.
As for Laura having ever been possessed, I am often confused by this. She says she won't let him in, but there are moments when Bob certainly seems to be in there, like the clip posted above. There is also the scene at Harold's when she is giving him the diary to hide. I can't find a clip of it. I'm hoping that you all know the scene I'm talking about or a more tech savvy and patient fan can post it.
Not sure if this was actual possession or maybe it's just Bob trying to peak through the cracks in her armor. What do you all think?
Bob had an influence on her, enough that she feared Donna wearing her stuff, & following her path ( she has Jacques help her get Donna out of the wild Canada club & back home ). He was still using Leland's body, wanting to perform a ritual & take over her body instead ( Mike throws her the ring and putting it on thwarts Bob's plan ).
Maddie and even more Donna, when wearing Laura's shades on Season 2 definitly seemed different, meaner, less innocent. Maybe it has something to do with the Laura egg and how we're going to see her presence in the next parts of The Return.
Posted by: PhillJeffriesTPShe was never possessed by Bob
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR5ZZrnXqe8
Surely this suggests that in a sense, she was.
Where is this from?
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