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(@andrew_tomassone)
Town Visitor

So I was thinking about how the return, so far, has put an emphasis on these "lodge spirits" (for lack of a better term) existing as actual beings rather than abstract entities and these beings seem to be attempting to mimic human behavior as evidenced by BOB/doppel-dale/Mr. C's comment. So what if the tree/nervous system is them getting closer to fully understanding human anatomy (evolving from the arm - an appendage - to a more complete nervous system and the beginnings of what looks like a brain) and what if the reason that everyone has a doppelgänger is because each being just picked a human to mimic and at some point they decided there could only be one being mimicking each person. Even further, what if these beings are harvesting humans for garmonbozia the same way that humans harvests forests for lumber for various uses (the show seems to overtly emphasize this parallel with the mill and the emphasis on forests and wood in general - Josie's "soul" in the wood of the great northern, the log lady, Phillip Jeffries traveling through wood into the hotel in Buenos Aires, etc). Following this theory, the giant (if he is indeed trying to help cooper) could effectively be an environmentalist trying to save Cooper from being harvested the way Leland was at the end of FWWM. Also, this could explain the Venus de milo statue in the red room/black lodge as a reference for these beings mimicking the way humans look. Just ideas and sorry this post is way longer than anticipated. Lemme know what you think! Also shoutout to Petier Dom for these forums they were much needed and are much appreciated!

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Posted : 25/05/2017 4:04 pm
(@andrew_tomassone)
Town Visitor

Also! This is a reach but what if the recurring "is it future? Is it past?" Line is something that the "beings" cannot figure out about the way humans experience time. What if they can't figure out whether the present time is future or past because they have no concept of "present" like humans do? And what if 2:53 on that particular date is a time when the beings system of counting time lines up with our human system so it is a time in which travel between "worlds" is possible. Also, would like to point out that I misspelled Pieter's name in my last post! My apologies, Pieter!

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Posted : 25/05/2017 5:24 pm
(@samxtherapy)
Detective

I never gave it much thought.  The Lodge beings seem to occupy a similar place in the story to the BDOs  (Big Dumb Object) in SF, in that you know there's something there but you'll never fully understand it.  

I believe they experience time sequentially but not necessarily in the same way we do, since everyone in the Black Lodge has some knowledge of future events.  Maybe time flows in the other direction for them, which would account for the way they speak.

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Posted : 25/05/2017 11:17 pm
(@usual_anomaly)
Lodger

The new series left me with the impression the lodge inhabitants are benevolent. Especially Gerard when he warns Dougy that "you've been tricked" and Laura who tells him he can go. 

Also when "Ronnette Pulaski 2017" preps him with "when you get there you will already be there (two Coops)  

as far as the other confusing things they say I have NO idea  

 

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Posted : 27/05/2017 12:20 am
(@usual_anomaly)
Lodger

The new series left me with the impression the lodge inhabitants are benevolent. Especially Gerard when he warns Dougy that "you've been tricked" and Laura who tells him he can go. 

Also when "Ronnette Pulaski 2017" preps him with "when you get there you will already be there (two Coops)  

as far as the other confusing things they say I have NO idea  

 

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Posted : 27/05/2017 12:20 am
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