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You Can Tell from This Forum - Lynch is Dead Set on Confusing Us...

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(@ric_bissell)
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... isn't he?

Why?

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Posted : 08/09/2017 8:57 am
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Because he, too, is confused by the many images that enter his brain out of, seemingly, nowhere. He still wants to share them, indeed feels obligated, and perhaps that is part of the point: life is a series of confusing mysteries so "lettuce" embrace our confoundment with life and figure this thing out together. 

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 9:06 am
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Stephen King was once asked "why do you write horror stories?" and he replied "What makes you think I have a choice?". I'm beginning to think Lynch is like that. His stories are the way they are, because it's the way they're meant to be told, there is no other option. 

King also said that while he has a basic idea of what a story will be, the tale takes on a life of its own and goes in unexpected directions, and he plots them along the way. We know that Bob's creation was, in Lynch's words, a happy accident, and I think there was some of that in TP3. While DL and MF have a vision, they also follow their intuition and instinct and go where the story takes them.

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 9:37 am
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Posted by: Damien Crowley
 
While DL and MF have a vision, they also follow their intuition and instinct and go where the story takes them.

Hi Damien,

But why would their intuition and instinct lead them to confuse nearly every single person who watched The Return?

Surely, they have enough superego to override their instinctual id if they wanted to, if only to make a more coherent story.  Why didn't they?

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Posted : 08/09/2017 9:51 am
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Posted by: Ric Bissell
Posted by: Damien Crowley
 
While DL and MF have a vision, they also follow their intuition and instinct and go where the story takes them.

Hi Damien,

But why would their intuition and instinct lead them to confuse nearly every single person who watched The Return?

Surely, they have enough superego to override their instinctual id if they wanted to, if only to make a more coherent story.  Why didn't they?

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They're artists, man!  😛

I don't know, I kind of wonder if it all makes total sense to them and they are just shaking their heads, baffled that we all don't get it.

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 9:55 am
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I don't think Salvador Dali ever once considered, even for a moment, "I'd better take those horrifically long bony legs off those elephants, otherwise people will never get this painting."

We're still admiring, hating, and debating Dali after 50 years.  These guys just hear their own drum.  I envy that.

 

 

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 9:59 am
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Posted by: Brandy Fisher
 
They're artists, man!  😛
 
I don't know, I kind of wonder if it all makes total sense to them and they are just shaking their heads, baffled that we all don't get it.

Hi Brandy,

I, too, have wondered if it all makes sense to them.  I guess it does.  But if so, why don't they convey that sense to their audience?

Just to be Art-y?  Art for art's sake?  (Where's Garfunkel when you really need him?)

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Posted : 08/09/2017 10:03 am
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Not sure if they are trying to confuse anyone.  Maybe this is the way the story is.

In any case, not everyone is confused.  We may all have different ideas but within each one, many of us think we have the answer.  Probably all of us hopelessly wrong but that's half the fun with this show.

Come on, gang.  If we can unpack Episode 8, we can make sense of anything.

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 10:05 am
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Posted by: Subalpine Fir

I don't think Salvador Dali ever once considered, even for a moment, "I'd better take those horrifically long bony legs off those elephants, otherwise people will never get this painting."

We're still admiring, hating, and debating Dali after 50 years.  These guys just hear their own drum.  I envy that.

 

 

Hi Fur,

So that's why they did it, in hopes that their patrons will still be debating the meaning fifty years from now?

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Posted : 08/09/2017 10:08 am
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Posted by: Ric Bissell

...why would their intuition and instinct lead them to confuse nearly every single person who watched The Return?...

Well, that question is assuming that like most people, they want to Make Sense. -

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 10:11 am
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All art work expresses a vision of the creator and the meaning of the art work is then decided by the viewer.  Obviously the creators have a specific vision in mind when writing the story which is to provide mysteries for us to solve rather than solving the mystery themselves.  David Lynch puts out these visual images and then  it is up to the viewer to decide what is going on.  Unless you actually strap David Lynch and Mark Frost in a chair and tell them to explain what it all means before they are allowed to leave then it is up to the viewer to provide the answers to the mysteries that they have presented to us in the Twin Peaks universe.

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 10:17 am
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Posted by: Andrew Glasson

All art work expresses a vision of the creator and the meaning of the art work is then decided by the viewer...

I like your post. I do want to add that we shouldn't assume they want viewers to get stuck trying to unravel all the mysteries. They may want viewers to Stop Making Sense, which I think is something true of Lynch if not Frost also.

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 10:24 am
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Posted by: SamXTherapy

Not sure if they are trying to confuse anyone.  Maybe this is the way the story is.

In any case, not everyone is confused.  We may all have different ideas but within each one, many of us think we have the answer.  Probably all of us hopelessly wrong but that's half the fun with this show.

Come on, gang.  If we can unpack Episode 8, we can make sense of anything.

I don't think there is an "answer" any more than there is a "story".  It's something different - lots of related fragments that don't cohere.

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 10:28 am
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Posted by: SamXTherapy

Come on, gang.  If we can unpack Episode 8, we can make sense of anything.

Hi Sam,

Good point!  😉

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Posted : 08/09/2017 10:34 am
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Posted by: Andrew Glasson

All art work expresses a vision of the creator and the meaning of the art work is then decided by the viewer.  Obviously the creators have a specific vision in mind when writing the story which is to provide mysteries for us to solve rather than solving the mystery themselves.  David Lynch puts out these visual images and then  it is up to the viewer to decide what is going on. 

Hi Andrew,

Did Lynch have a meaning in mind when he made The Return, do you think?  Or was it all just vision?  "I know! Now I'll add a character with a baby blue, Playtex Living Power Glove that I can use later to pulverize BOB with!" ?

If he did have a meaning in mind, why not let us all in on it?  😉

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Posted : 08/09/2017 10:56 am
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