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When does opening scene with Fireman take place? (& meaning of 'it is in our house now')

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(@bluepinemnt)
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This  one has been bugging me for a while, but I’ve been narrowing it  down.  It must take place before Cooper travels to the alternative  reality at  430, because The Fireman seems to be reminding Cooper of how  to get  there and what to do once he does. Also, since this scene takes  place in  the White Lodge, it must be at some point after Cooper leaves  the Black  Lodge in episode 2. He may have had contact with the Fireman  before  this, but if he had been trapped in the Black Lodge then any  meeting  between them could only have taken place there.
 
It   must also have been at some point before he gets his FBI pin back in   episode 17. I reckon he might have been transported there in a dream   state, during his coma – right after he sticks the fork in the power   socket. It’s the only time I can think of where Cooper could have been   ‘somewhere else’ in some way, even if he wasn’t there physically. This   would explain why the The Fireman then says that he is ‘far away’.  Maybe  the whole point of sticking the fork in the power socket, was to  access  the White Lodge via electricity.
 
The  Fireman also says  ‘it is in our house now’. The ‘it’ is most likely a  reference to Judy  (who is probably also the Experiment/Mother). ‘Our  house’ is likely to  be a reference to the Palmer house in our reality  (as opposed to the  Palmer house in the alternative reality where Judy  ends up in episode  18). Sarah Palmer (in the main reality) seems to be  under the  possession of Judy – and in episode 17 we see Major Briggs and  The  Fireman watching the Palmer house, so this all adds up. I posted   elsewhere about Cooper travelling to the alternative reality always   being part of the plan to get to ultimately Judy, so this would tie up   with that idea too.
 
Posted : 13/09/2017 7:45 am
(@peter_stevenson)
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This is a very good thought for the timing and I beleive you  are right. Makes sense that he's somewhere when he's in the coma as they don't show what's going on in his mind at this point in the show , just the people around him . And judy being in the house makes a whole lot of sense too. Only thing that bugs me is when coop doesn't remember about Richard and Linda when waking in Odessa after telling fireman he's understands. 

 
Posted : 13/09/2017 10:01 am
(@bluepinemnt)
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Yeah I've been wondering about the scene where he wakes up in Odessa too. I re-watched it and it almost looks as if he is struggling to remember - as if he knows the names are important. Interesting that he doesn't identify himself with the name Richard too, given that Diane signs the note as Linda and Laura identifies as Carrie. Tbh it might just be Lynch and Frost deliberately making it ambiguous, so that it isn't clear whether or not the plan is working as intended! (which I don't think is a bad thing necessarily lol)

 
Posted : 14/09/2017 1:21 pm
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