Around the dinner table, the conversation was lively. Thank you but for now, the forum has been archived.
When tptr finished it was a week later and my friends girlfriend asked him if he wanted to watch something on telly , he answered simply.........................................................what's the point.
I think a lot of people are feeling the same way now that TPTR has finished.
I think TP & TPTR have been the greatest shows ever on TV ever but the nearest interesting TV shows would be Mr Robot, with the Leftovers coming second.
Book - The Illuminatus Trilogy.
I prefer the original Twin Peaks up to the point when the Palmer case was resolved. The Return is phenomenal, but there's nothing like meeting Cooper, Audrey and the town for the first time.
The first five seasons of the X Files are really, really, good. It doesn't generate the kind of discussions TP does, but I love watching it over and over.
For books, the closest would be Salem's Lot and Lovecraft.
Anyone who enjoyed this series of Twin Peaks should take a look at Viriconium by M John Harrison. It has exactly the same sense of frustration, not knowing what the hell is happening and creeping tension. It's also very funny in places and full of astute observations about the way people behave.
For "Hard" Science Fiction, Iain M Banks is yer man. His Culture Novels are arguably (I'll argue with anyone about it) the most well realized and brilliantly thought out portraits of a supertechnological post-scarcity civilization. The stories also don't feature Earth humans, except as a bit of a side note here and there. Banks' other novels are generally worth reading, too. A Song of Stone is a bit of a slog but one dud out of the 30 or so isn't a bad average.
Alastair Reynolds has written several good SF novels, but some are a bit "meh". Ones I enjoyed were: Century Rain, House of Suns and Pushing Ice.
For plain weird, Jeff Noon takes some beating. Start with Vurt, then Pollen and Nymphomation. You'll probably want to read the rest of 'em after those. Most of Noon's stories take place in a warped version of Manchester, where the city - and most of the country - has suffered the ravages of mutated designer drugs, runaway chemical experiments and genetic engineering. A collection of short stories, Pixel Juice, features stories mainly from the same continuity. Needle In the Groove is a novel about an up and coming band, and their sudden rise to fame.
A Song of Stone is a bit of a slog but one dud out of the 30 or so isn't a bad average.
At least Song of Stone was stylistically ambitious, Dead Air on the other hand was garbage.
On the upside, The Bridge is brilliant and I am so fond of Crow Road and Complicity - I read those at an impressionable age and find it impossible to be objective about them. I met Banks once at a book signing in Guildford WH Smiths. He shuffled in off the street on his own carrying some stuff in a plastic bag, flicked through the magazines for a while before introducing himself to the shop staff, who had failed to recognise him. I thought about asking him down the local pub for a few beers and a chat afterwards, but to my regret didn't. Great man, much missed. Probably having a chat up there with Harry Dean, kindred spirits.
LOST - but only because it lasted six seasons, and I was able to stay on a forum quite like this one - looking forward instead of backwards - for a few years instead of a few months. 🙁
The endings of both are pretty much an even-Steven (odd-Todd? ;-)) tie - especially in regards to fan reaction. =:-O
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A Song of Stone is a bit of a slog but one dud out of the 30 or so isn't a bad average.
At least Song of Stone was stylistically ambitious, Dead Air on the other hand was garbage.
On the upside, The Bridge is brilliant and I am so fond of Crow Road and Complicity - I read those at an impressionable age and find it impossible to be objective about them. I met Banks once at a book signing in Guildford WH Smiths. He shuffled in off the street on his own carrying some stuff in a plastic bag, flicked through the magazines for a while before introducing himself to the shop staff, who had failed to recognise him. I thought about asking him down the local pub for a few beers and a chat afterwards, but to my regret didn't. Great man, much missed. Probably having a chat up there with Harry Dean, kindred spirits.
Dead Air is the only one I haven't read. I'll have to make up for it.
You definitely should have asked him if he fancied a pint; he was very generous with his time. We had a shared love of Commodore Amiga games and exchanged addresses, sending stuff to each other now and again. Even when he changed over to a Mac, we still kept in touch. Top lad.
LOST - but only because it lasted six seasons, and I was able to stay on a forum quite like this one - looking forward instead of backwards - for a few years instead of a few months. 🙁
The endings of both are pretty much an even-Steven (odd-Todd? ;-)) tie - especially in regards to fan reaction. =:-O
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I am getting the pleasure of watching Lost from the beginning on Netflix for the first time. Was never much of a series watcher (more movie guy) so it's been a nice fill in post Twin Peaks.
LOST - but only because it lasted six seasons, and I was able to stay on a forum quite like this one - looking forward instead of backwards - for a few years instead of a few months. 🙁
The endings of both are pretty much an even-Steven (odd-Todd? ;-)) tie - especially in regards to fan reaction. =:-O
I am getting the pleasure of watching Lost from the beginning on Netflix for the first time.
I envy you. 😉
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P.S. Locke's all kinds of cool, isn't he? 😉 Just wait. =:-O
A Song of Stone is a bit of a slog but one dud out of the 30 or so isn't a bad average.
At least Song of Stone was stylistically ambitious, Dead Air on the other hand was garbage.
On the upside, The Bridge is brilliant and I am so fond of Crow Road and Complicity - I read those at an impressionable age and find it impossible to be objective about them. I met Banks once at a book signing in Guildford WH Smiths. He shuffled in off the street on his own carrying some stuff in a plastic bag, flicked through the magazines for a while before introducing himself to the shop staff, who had failed to recognise him. I thought about asking him down the local pub for a few beers and a chat afterwards, but to my regret didn't. Great man, much missed. Probably having a chat up there with Harry Dean, kindred spirits.
Dead Air is the only one I haven't read. I'll have to make up for it.
You definitely should have asked him if he fancied a pint; he was very generous with his time. We had a shared love of Commodore Amiga games and exchanged addresses, sending stuff to each other now and again. Even when he changed over to a Mac, we still kept in touch. Top lad.
That's a great story!
I know I'm bombing the forum here, but:
It Came From The Desert
Turrican 2
Police, Kings, Space Quest
Stunt car racer
Monkey island
Agh! So hard to narrow down the best because there were so many.
Hi Charlie,LOST - but only because it lasted six seasons, and I was able to stay on a forum quite like this one - looking forward instead of backwards - for a few years instead of a few months. 🙁
The endings of both are pretty much an even-Steven (odd-Todd? ;-)) tie - especially in regards to fan reaction. =:-O
I am getting the pleasure of watching Lost from the beginning on Netflix for the first time.
I envy you. 😉
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P.S. Locke's all kinds of cool, isn't he? 😉 Just wait. =:-O
Yeah Locke, Hurley, and Jack are easy to like. I've made it to about 20 episodes of season 2 so far.
For me, there is nothing "better" than TPTR as it relates to TV series. It brought out thoughts and emotions in me that nothing else can touch. That said, I couldn't watch a series like TPTR (or any Lynch-esque show/movie) all the time. The emotional and intellectual investment that is required, at least for me, is utterly draining. And I need a break for a bit. There are times when my mind is very tired and I just want to be entertained in a much more simplistic way. For those types of days, I love shows like GOT, the Americans, and House of Cards. Older favorites are Breaking Bad and Mad Men. Also, sometimes dumb and short comedy shows like Vice Principals are just what the doctor ordered! But no, nothing can beat TPTR or anything Lynch, really.
A Song of Stone is a bit of a slog but one dud out of the 30 or so isn't a bad average.
At least Song of Stone was stylistically ambitious, Dead Air on the other hand was garbage.
On the upside, The Bridge is brilliant and I am so fond of Crow Road and Complicity - I read those at an impressionable age and find it impossible to be objective about them. I met Banks once at a book signing in Guildford WH Smiths. He shuffled in off the street on his own carrying some stuff in a plastic bag, flicked through the magazines for a while before introducing himself to the shop staff, who had failed to recognise him. I thought about asking him down the local pub for a few beers and a chat afterwards, but to my regret didn't. Great man, much missed. Probably having a chat up there with Harry Dean, kindred spirits.
Dead Air is the only one I haven't read. I'll have to make up for it.
You definitely should have asked him if he fancied a pint; he was very generous with his time. We had a shared love of Commodore Amiga games and exchanged addresses, sending stuff to each other now and again. Even when he changed over to a Mac, we still kept in touch. Top lad.
That's a great story!
I know I'm bombing the forum here, but:
It Came From The Desert
Turrican 2
Police, Kings, Space Quest
Stunt car racer
Monkey island
Agh! So hard to narrow down the best because there were so many.
Linked Amigas, two player Stunt Car Racer was one of the funniest games I ever played.
Best two player games ever, however, were the Kick Off and Sensible Soccer series.
Digital Integrations Pinball games were pretty damn good; our dev team used to waste hours on those and the Sensi Soccer games.
I have a fondness for the old school "Heads Down No Nonsense Mindless Blasting" genre, too. A Shareware game, Deluxe Galaga, really hits the spot there.
For the record, Iain was a big fan of the original Asteroids arcade game. I got him a perfect copy for the Amiga. From that moment on, we were good mates. He even signed a book Iain "Asteroids" Banks.
I love TPTR, but another brilliant TV show is The Sopranos. It's much more than a mafia tale. It's a commentary on the values of the USA and the dynamics of families among many other things. There is an amazing amount of care in its use of symbolism. A lot of it is almost subliminal. Superb writing, acting and directing.
A great book IMO is Phillip K Dick's Ubik.
Check out "Road House" with Ida Lupino and Richard Widmark.
Northern Woodsy Noir vibe with many Lynchian overtones.
You will love Widmark after seeing this film...
proto-Twin Peaks!