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(@anthony_despain)
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The thing that has kept sticking in my mind, despite the multiple explanations for the finale, is Gordon Cole's dream regarding "Who is the dreamer?" To me, this question stands on its own. It isn't dependent on Carrie's scream, Cooper's superimposed face over Part 17, Sarah, Judy. It doesn't rely on the Red Room, the Fireman or anything else for explanation.

If we try finding a plausible "explanation" with the theories presented so far, we all hit a brick wall.

Unless we focus on Gordon Cole's "sick feeling" that he, and everyone else, lives inside a dream. Our dream. David Lynch's dream. The dream that we share with David Lynch and the beautiful story that is Twin Peaks.

I know this doesn't "settle" very well, but it really is, to me, the only logical explanation and the  only conclusion to Twin Peaks that gives me peace. I'm okay with the whole thing being a dream. A beautiful, horrific, extraordinary, brilliant, disturbing, moving, unnerving, unexpected, incredible dream.

 

 

 

 
Posted : 06/09/2017 11:25 pm
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I keep going back and forth on this. It is true that the dream theory would explain away a lot of things. However, as I consider the dream explanation, I keep asking myself, what is the point then of The Secret History of Twin Peaks books and the yet to be released Final Dossier? Doesn't seem like there would be a point to having all of these FBI files/documents as an attempt to an investigation into these supernatural elements. The other thing that I have trouble with in following the dream theory is that this is a hell of an intricate dream, with a plethora of story arcs. Think about the original run and the whole Dick Vs. Andy and Little Nicky side story. There seems to be too much depth in the characters and story for it to be a dream--at least in "normal" definition of a dream. But then again, every other theory hits a brick wall at a certain point too so who knows...

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 11:24 am
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This is the kind of dreaming I can get behind for Twin Peaks, because this dreaming doesn't make our experiences unreal in an everyday sense. Here's an excerpt:

"Vishnu dreams the entire universe; his dream is the ten thousand things. Narada is also dreaming inside of Vishnu’s dream! You and I are also living in a dream. It might be a happy dream or a sad one, a prosperous dream or a poor dream; it might be a selfish dream or a selfless dream. Maybe we are having a Zen dream or a “practicing in order to help all beings” dream.

Buddha said, “I am awake.” This is the teaching of all the Buddhas and eminent teachers. Wake up! Whenever we wake up from our dream-even if only for a single moment-we attain our original job. When we attain our original job and just do it, we are using Vishnu’s dream to save all beings from suffering."

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 11:42 am
Anthony Despain, slb1995_, Marian Rubey and 1 people reacted
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Posted by: Anthony Despain

The thing that has kept sticking in my mind, despite the multiple explanations for the finale, is Gordon Cole's dream regarding "Who is the dreamer?" To me, this question stands on its own. It isn't dependent on Carrie's scream, Cooper's superimposed face over Part 17, Sarah, Judy. It doesn't rely on the Red Room, the Fireman or anything else for explanation.

If we try finding a plausible "explanation" with the theories presented so far, we all hit a brick wall.

Unless we focus on Gordon Cole's "sick feeling" that he, and everyone else, lives inside a dream. Our dream. David Lynch's dream. The dream that we share with David Lynch and the beautiful story that is Twin Peaks.

I know this doesn't "settle" very well, but it really is, to me, the only logical explanation and the  only conclusion to Twin Peaks that gives me peace. I'm okay with the whole thing being a dream. A beautiful, horrific, extraordinary, brilliant, disturbing, moving, unnerving, unexpected, incredible dream.

 

 

 

I have concluded that it is Lynch himself that is the dreamer.

Monica Bellucci said “We’re like the dreamer who dreams and then lives inside the dream.”

She played herself in that scene, so if she (the real person) is "like the dreamer" (Lynch) who "then lives inside the dream" (Cole), that means she is talking about a real person (Lynch), who is inside his own dream (Twin Peaks).

When looking behind him in the scene, he is looking (and you can check this on Google Maps) at an exhibition of his own work a few doors down from the cafe.

He may also be the person directing the real-life owner of the house at the end of episode 18, what to say.  It's his dream after all. lol

 

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 12:05 pm
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maybe this idea fits here...

I think perhaps Cooper is the dreamer...and all these events are in the "troubling dream" Cooper told Cole about "a few days" ago (from FWWM)....he goes to Cole mentions this and then Jeffries appears....So the dream was finite an Cooper bore witness to it all in 1989 in Philly. Jeffries now temporarily "free" & existing as himself....says to Cole of Cooper "who do you think that is there"?.....maybe implying he also knows of the dream (since he was in the dream as a guest to one of the "meetings"....& maybe he doesn't know which Cooper was there in front of him

But, what doesn't fit is Cooper woke from that dream as Cooper....unless, this 1989 existence is illusory....and not sure how it all fits in with Richard as the real version of whats happening.

 

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 12:59 pm
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This is the other explanation I have considered, but only if the series continues. 

My belief is that Cooper is still in the Black Lodge and that he never left. Everything that happened after EvilCoop escaped has been a dream for Cooper in the Red Room. Laura whispers this to him. I'm wondering if she is also whispering to him that he cannot leave (yet.)

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 2:28 pm
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