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Posted by: dopplearb

 So.....we kinda got filled in on Richard and Linda as well as 430 but I have no idea what the two birds one stone is referring to.

When Diane saw her double outside of the motel I briefly thought red haired Diane was tulpa number 2 (that two tulpas were made from one seed).

Of course from that point onward there were no more answers, only questions. 

Did anyone catch or theorize on the 2 birds one stone?

I am fascinated that Cooper's message to Gordon reiterated the "two birds one stone."--If I get lost, find me, I'm trying to kill two birds with one stone.

I might be sex-obsessed, but I feel like part of the mission was to have sex with Diane in the motel. I feel like that incident cemented Cooper's identity as Cooper when he woke up in Odessa. It did not do the same for Diane apparently (although it's hard to say what happened there). But he wakes up as Richard, apparently, but he in his own mind is still Agent Cooper of the FBI and that allows him to find Laura/Carrie. I think that was part of the mission and why it was important for him not to be lost, and maybe even the reason for all of the resolutions of episode 17 (all those stories have their own resolutions, some of which we see, many we don't).

I'm rethinking the creepy sex scene in a more positive light. I think Cooper stares at Diane to study her face and to lock their own identity as a couple. He deliberately says her name DIANE before they make love and she does not seem confused, which kills the theory some had that they were Richard and Linda when they made love. While she tries to hide his eyes, he looks directly at her face up to that point. When he wakes up alone in Odessa, he remembers that encounter fully and is Dale in his mind. 

Maybe the two birds are remember who he is, and finding Laura so she can remember who she is.

I don't think he made any mistakes. I think it's going to plan. My two cents and a pence.

 
Posted : 06/09/2017 1:35 pm
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Posted by: dopplearb

Judy didn't throw them into the Richard Linda timeline. They willing crossed over at mile 430 for a purpose which Dale was given by the fireman. I am not fully convinced that the purpose was "save Laura" since this was after he went to the past and took her hand.

The 'save Laura' idea, some sort of 'quick fix'/happy ending, I think plays into the idea of 'spoofing a superhero movie' with Freddie.  Agent Cooper did everything he could to 'save Laura' factually, but this had no effect on the core problem of Twin Peaks, everything that happened there, the pain and crushed dreams, remained right under the surface.  The superficial 'save Laura and kill Judy' solution always fails and always will fail, just leads to slow decay and sleepwalking into Odessa, Texas(or the slow decay and increasing violence in Twin Peaks) by ignoring the core problem, pretending everything is great, while all the problems are left untouched and bubbling right under the surface.  It was the same problem at Laura's funeral when the community of Twin Peaks refused to face up to the horror going on in their community, that they all turned a blind eye while Laura was calling out for help, but instead did not listed to Bobby and preferred to pretend that they were still the ideal community, things will go on as normal, etc., it was just some 'bad guy' or something that is 'over now' without having to face up to the problems and have a negative reaction to it, thus the slow decay and violence that tore Laura apart grows slowly for the past 25 years in Twin Peaks.  This is why Laura killed that man in Odessa and hated it so much, saying 'I tried to keep a clean house', etc., but still a 'world full of truck drivers' here, thus in episode 18 and after 430 we have to move Laura and Cooper from the white surface that ignores the black/Judy/negativity/problems, integrating the 'toughness'/negative reaction to all the horror he witnessed back into Cooper. After everything that has happened, does anyone think that the same happy Cooper that first entered Twin Peaks is going to just come back that easily, without facing up to all of the 'dark'/negative things that drove him mad(entering Judy's diner), then having a negative/dark reaction to it? This kind of 'happy ending' is basically endorsing the problems by having a 'happy reaction' to it, doing some quick minimal things and pretending everything is saved, go back into 'sleepwalking'.  This is why the infinity symbol of Judy with the stone first flips, the reverse side/tulpa/doppelganger, etc. first, then the stone goes from the 'two birds' flipped to staying on one side and moving back to the original place, the return, taking away the automatic tulpas running wild and reintegrating them into Agent Cooper, same with Laura, back in Twin Peaks.....

 
Posted : 06/09/2017 1:46 pm
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Posted by: cyndeewill
I am fascinated that Cooper's message to Gordon reiterated the "two birds one stone."--If I get lost, find me, I'm trying to kill two birds with one stone.

I might be sex-obsessed, but I feel like part of the mission was to have sex with Diane in the motel. I feel like that incident cemented Cooper's identity as Cooper when he woke up in Odessa. It did not do the same for Diane apparently (although it's hard to say what happened there). But he wakes up as Richard, apparently, but he in his own mind is still Agent Cooper of the FBI and that allows him to find Laura/Carrie. I think that was part of the mission and why it was important for him not to be lost, and maybe even the reason for all of the resolutions of episode 17 (all those stories have their own resolutions, some of which we see, many we don't).

I'm rethinking the creepy sex scene in a more positive light. I think Cooper stares at Diane to study her face and to lock their own identity as a couple. He deliberately says her name DIANE before they make love and she does not seem confused, which kills the theory some had that they were Richard and Linda when they made love. While she tries to hide his eyes, he looks directly at her face up to that point. When he wakes up alone in Odessa, he remembers that encounter fully and is Dale in his mind. 

Maybe the two birds are remember who he is, and finding Laura so she can remember who she is.

I don't think he made any mistakes. I think it's going to plan. My two cents and a pence.

I'm into your theory and I think you brought up some good questions but I disagree that those are the two birds. Simply bc if he told Gordon in 1989 that he's trying to kill two birds with one stone in relation to the hunt for Judy then neither of these things would have come up yet: saving Laura and remembering his identity. 

 
Posted : 06/09/2017 2:01 pm
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