I think IndieWire explaination is quite good.
I like it except for one thing. I don't think that Carrie Page reawakening to her memories as Laura Palmer is a sign of evil triumphing over good. I think it's a sign that Laura's getting ready to fight again.
Yeah, I think Laura's scream is a positive sign too.
I'm mostly on board with IndieWire's take. The more I chew on it, the more I think it's really not that baffling or opaque of an ending overall, although there are still plenty of things to think about and discuss.
I believe the intent was for Laura to face Judy but that Judy, knowing that Laura's spirit was alive in the world, went someplace else before RichardCoop and CarrieLaura could get to the house. It's still clearly a Lodge-related location (with the names Chalfont and Tremond attached to it), but Judy flew the coop. She lives to fight another day, as does Laura.
As endings go, it's more of a beginning, which I think is what has so many people upset.
It's Sarah Palmer. Also did you notice the Experiment in one of the Palmers' windows.
A pic of that would be helpful.
It's Sarah Palmer. Also did you notice the Experiment in one of the Palmers' windows.
Wow, really? Screenshot please!
Plus, you can see The Experiment in one of the Palmer house windows.
After a good bit of thought, I think the ending was brilliant. For me, Cooper's confusion and sense of defeat was among the most emotionally powerful scenes in The Return. It seemed like our favorite FBI agent had failed again and was doomed to an endless cycle of failure.
I believe the scream tells us that Cooper had succeeded. Timelines/realities were converging in a way that allows the next part of the story to begin.
What I was thinking was that when Cooper took Laura out of the FWWM/Original TV Show timeline by stopping her from going with Leo, Jaques and Ronnette he did stop her from being killed how she was originally killed, which may mean she didn't put the owl ring on her finger in the train car - which means her soul wasn't transported to the Black Lodge. I think Laura either died by the hand of Bob, but later in time (not when she originally died), didn't put the owl ring on... and that's why when we see a repeat of Cooper in the Black Lodge Laura isn't there (aka the zoom in on her chair in the red room being empty). Then I'm thinking her soul (which was created to fight evil or the mother/judy) was reincarnated into this new timeline as Carrie. She hears Sarah Palmer calling her actual name and I think that's when all her Laura memories came flooding back and that's why she started screaming. Maybe both timelines converged? That also explains why Sarah Palmer was going apesh*t on Laura's picture - I'm pretty sure she's possessed by the mother of evil/judy and since Cooper couldn't save Laura physically, but saved her soul from being trapped in the Black Lodge, now Laura is out and about to fulfill her destiny presented to her by the Fireman in episode 8 (when he creates her and sends her to Earth when Bob is created). I mean, if I was the mother/judy I'd be pretty pissed that I didn't have my mortal enemy trapped anymore.
I think this is pretty spot on, especially that Cooper wasn't trying to save her life (with BOB in Leland, she was probably doomed one way or another), but to keep her from dying with the ring on her finger.
What I find interesting is that when Laura disappears from Coop at the end of Ep. 17, Coop hears Laura's scream in the woods. Could this be Laura's scream at the end of Ep. 18 across dimensions once the timelines sync up and Carrie realizes she is Laura?
What I find interesting is that when Laura disappears from Coop at the end of Ep. 17, Coop hears Laura's scream in the woods. Could this be Laura's scream at the end of Ep. 18 across dimensions once the timelines sync up and Carrie realizes she is Laura?
Could be, but I thought it sounded more like the scream when she was sucked out of the Lodge in Ep2 (or thereabouts).
Prior to Laura's (Carrie's) scream, the voice that shouts Laura's is definitely Sarah Palmer's voice. It's the same sound bite used in Twin Peaks season 1 when Sarah remembers in slow motion calling for Laura, going up the stairs under the ceiling fan, and seeing Bob at the foot of Laura's bed.
I do believe, as suggested in the "Who Killed Laura Palmer thread" that what Laura whispered to Dale in S3E2 was a parallel of what she whispered to Dale in S1E2 namely, "My mother killed me."
Prior to Laura's (Carrie's) scream, the voice that shouts Laura's is definitely Sarah Palmer's voice. It's the same sound bite used in Twin Peaks season 1 when Sarah remembers in slow motion calling for Laura, going up the stairs under the ceiling fan, and seeing Bob at the foot of Laura's bed.
I do believe, as suggested in the "Who Killed Laura Palmer thread" that what Laura whispered to Dale in S3E2 was a parallel of what she whispered to Dale in S1E2 namely, "My mother killed me."
What I find interesting is that when Laura disappears from Coop at the end of Ep. 17, Coop hears Laura's scream in the woods. Could this be Laura's scream at the end of Ep. 18 across dimensions once the timelines sync up and Carrie realizes she is Laura?
Could be, but I thought it sounded more like the scream when she was sucked out of the Lodge in Ep2 (or thereabouts).
It is the same scream, and noises, from when she is yanked out of the lodge. THIS might be why she is yanked out of the lodge, in fact. She's dead yet she's alive, she feels like she knows her but she's not her but she is? All of these things seem to fit an alternate version of Laura like Carrie Page. And the flexibility of time for them means that we could see Laura's lodge entity disappear from the lodge at the same moment Cooper "loses" Laura in the woods. She might exist in all those planes at the same time and affecting one has an effect on another. Kind of like when Cooper was watching himself at the end of the Bob fight scene and before he wound up in the boiler room.
I believe it fits the "search for the zone" articles and perhaps this quote from the "Parallel Universes and Density Shifting" article:
"In the universe there are infinite amount of levels that matter and energy can exist in a natural state. What mankind does not know is that matter and energy, and that which supports the essence of life, exists many different vibrational frequencies. Each vibrational level is independent from each other, but occupy the same space."
Or, you know, I could be totally wrong too.
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