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Perhaps those cruel, cat calling cowboys in the end parallelled good Cooper's change into this Mr C/Cooper hybrid in the Odessa/Tremond world. Recall the cowboy lawman that Dougie Coop innocently admired in the plaza in front of his office. There was also cowboy imagery in innocent Sonny Jim's bedroom. Finally, remember the voice of morality who gave some instructions for to avoid calamity in Mulholland Drive. ''Twas The Cowboy.
For a fellow of Lynch's generation, cowboys were the good guys on kids' tv/radio shows. So methinks he has used them as symbols of law and morality/justice. But here in Odessa, where we've lost OUR Coop, and here, three men in cowboy hats are acting like the trucker who got royally messed up by Sarah.
No big theory here. Just an observation.
Great observation.
It reminds me a little of how, in The Watchmen graphic novel, comics aren't about super heroes, but pirates.
So it shows a shift in morality and symbols.
I like this observation. I approve it!
It has been pointed out the part 18 has a resemblance to the plot of The Searchers, a classic western film. (Yet another old-timey film reference from Lynch).
In Searchers, after the long search it turns out the captured children had been integrated to and identified with the native tribe that had taken them. Returning back to "civilization", the tiny world they left behind has already changed.
The Searchers was among the first wave of westerns that seriously probed the ambiguity of morals through that genre. John Wayne is no longer the "white hat" cowboy, but a hardened person with some shady past. The quest the heroes are undertaking seems at first moral and noble, but turns out to be more complex, with vanishing goals.
In a word, I like your analysis Jesse 🙂
Oh and that cowboy scene has Francesca Eastwood, daughter of Clint Eastwood. I've wondered the significance of that.
It has been pointed out the part 18 has a resemblance to the plot of The Searchers, a classic western film. (Yet another old-timey film reference from Lynch).
In Searchers, after the long search it turns out the captured children had been integrated to and identified with the native tribe that had taken them. Returning back to "civilization", the tiny world they left behind has already changed.
The Searchers was among the first wave of westerns that seriously probed the ambiguity of morals through that genre. John Wayne is no longer the "white hat" cowboy, but a hardened person with some shady past. The quest the heroes are undertaking seems at first moral and noble, but turns out to be more complex, with vanishing goals.
In a word, I like your analysis Jesse 🙂
Oh and that cowboy scene has Francesca Eastwood, daughter of Clint Eastwood. I've wondered the significance of that.
Now you mention it Tero the last episode is similar to The Searchers in a way. I've been so fixated on it being similar to Vertigo that I never thought to think about The Searchers but there are similarities between the last episode and The Searchers as well.
I believe the end part can easily have similarities to many films/series, it's a like a tiny film in itself.
So it goes
Just a searcher
A lonely soul
The last of the dreamers…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCns6moimZk
I like this idea as well. I don't know the movie, but I'll check it out when I have a chance.
It has been pointed out the part 18 has a resemblance to the plot of The Searchers, a classic western film. (Yet another old-timey film reference from Lynch).
In Searchers, after the long search it turns out the captured children had been integrated to and identified with the native tribe that had taken them. Returning back to "civilization", the tiny world they left behind has already changed.
The Searchers was among the first wave of westerns that seriously probed the ambiguity of morals through that genre. John Wayne is no longer the "white hat" cowboy, but a hardened person with some shady past. The quest the heroes are undertaking seems at first moral and noble, but turns out to be more complex, with vanishing goals.
In a word, I like your analysis Jesse 🙂
Oh and that cowboy scene has Francesca Eastwood, daughter of Clint Eastwood. I've wondered the significance of that.
Brilliant! I hadn't thought about The Searchers, but that makes wonderful sense. I wonder if there are any interviews with Lynch talking about it impacting him as a youngster; either way, it works here.
I like this idea as well. I don't know the movie, but I'll check it out when I have a chance.
I watched it once long ago when I was trying to become a film buff. Maybe I've just haven't been paying attention in too long, but it seems like Oscar winners these days aren't drawing inspiration/parallels from the full historic canon of 20th century film. They only go back so far. But here we've had references to films throughout the 20th century and from both sides of the Atlantic. It's a masterwork.
Oooooh, while listening to a soundtrack playlist tonight, I heard "cowboy" loud and clear in the Marty Robbins tune "Red River Valley." Does anyone remember what scene that played in? Some of the lyrics certainly bring Laura to mind.
We shall miss your bright eyes and sweet smile
For you take with you all of the sunshine
That has brightened our pathway a while
Do not hasten to bid me adieu
Just remember the Red River Valley
And the cowboy that's loved you so true
For the sweet words you never would say
Now at last all my fond hopes have vanished
For they say that you're going away
Do not hasten to bid me adieu
Just remember the Red River Valley
And the cowboy that's loved you so true
Oooooh, while listening to a soundtrack playlist tonight, I heard "cowboy" loud and clear in the Marty Robbins tune "Red River Valley." Does anyone remember what scene that played in? Some of the lyrics certainly bring Laura to mind.
From this valley they say you are leaving
We shall miss your bright eyes and sweet smile
For you take with you all of the sunshine
That has brightened our pathway a whileThen come sit by my side if you love me
Do not hasten to bid me adieu
Just remember the Red River Valley
And the cowboy that's loved you so trueFor a long time, my darlin', I've waited
For the sweet words you never would say
Now at last all my fond hopes have vanished
For they say that you're going awayThen come sit by my side if you love me
Do not hasten to bid me adieu
Just remember the Red River Valley
And the cowboy that's loved you so true
Carl Rodd sang it on his guitar just before the red cup was thrown out of the window of Becky and Stephen's trailer.
It has been pointed out the part 18 has a resemblance to the plot of The Searchers, a classic western film. (Yet another old-timey film reference from Lynch).
In Searchers, after the long search it turns out the captured children had been integrated to and identified with the native tribe that had taken them. Returning back to "civilization", the tiny world they left behind has already changed.
The Searchers was among the first wave of westerns that seriously probed the ambiguity of morals through that genre. John Wayne is no longer the "white hat" cowboy, but a hardened person with some shady past. The quest the heroes are undertaking seems at first moral and noble, but turns out to be more complex, with vanishing goals.
In a word, I like your analysis Jesse 🙂
Oh and that cowboy scene has Francesca Eastwood, daughter of Clint Eastwood. I've wondered the significance of that.
Brilliant! I hadn't thought about The Searchers, but that makes wonderful sense. I wonder if there are any interviews with Lynch talking about it impacting him as a youngster; either way, it works here.
Lynch has said that John Ford was one influence on him, but I don't recall him specifically talking about The Searchers. I'd guess anyone of his age who was into film-making would have studied Ford and that film.
Hank Worden ("Senor Droolcup") is in it as a young-ish man, so that's at least one actor both Ford and Lynch directed 🙂
Hank Worden ("Senor Droolcup") is in it as a young-ish man, so that's at least one actor both Ford and Lynch directed 🙂
It's time to play....
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Six Degrees of David Lynch! 😉
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Great observation.
It reminds me a little of how, in The Watchmen graphic novel, comics aren't about super heroes, but pirates.
So it shows a shift in morality and symbols.
I like this observation. I approve it!
Re: The Watchmen, great graphic novel and film.
Great observation.
It reminds me a little of how, in The Watchmen graphic novel, comics aren't about super heroes, but pirates.
So it shows a shift in morality and symbols.
I like this observation. I approve it!
Re: The Watchmen, great graphic novel and film.
Damon Lindelof is heading up a Watchmen HBO series.
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