It packed a punch, for sure. I've been through a series of reactions myself. But the one that's holding constant (at least since about a half-hour after the initial WTF?!) is that it wouldn't have the power to affect me like this if it wasn't, on some deep and essential level...
...really, really well done.
That's the eternal conversation about art, isn't it? What's the measure of good art anyway? Must it be beautiful? Must it bring joy? Should it bring truth?
Or is it successful if it simply accomplishes whatever the artist was going for (whether that's joy, disgust, sadness, or some ineffable combo of the above)?
David Lynch didn't create this to make us skip around and giggle and exchange cherry pie recipes; that's for sure. I'm not totally equipped to say what he did want. But I'm positive he wanted us to be feeling something powerfully, and I am. As Candie might say, I REALLY am.
So without grasping every detail (though already I'm getting much more than I did about 14 hours ago), I kind of think he accomplished what he was going for, with flying colors.
Well, if this destination ruined your journey, then I'm sorry. Hopefully you won't discredit the many weeks spent on this forum. I'm happy you were along for the ride even if you end up deciding the destination wasn't worth it.
Oh no, nothing like that. I'm not in the "this all sucked" phase. I'm still processing and trying to figure it out. Probably over-analyzing my own stance and feelings. Nothing is ruined, but at this moment, nothing is made better. Giving it time. Going through my grief stages.
It should be noted that my grief is not due to things not ending the way I wanted or expected. I think it's more because a) it's ended (maybe?), b) the "ending" was so confusing to me, c) I will never get to visit Disney World, and/or d) I don't know. I'm just sad.
I am very conflicted.
I'm glad you were here too. 🙂
I didn't even realize about "detective" until MJ pointed it out
I am right there with you, Brandy. All the feelings. Including the "I'll never get to disneyworld" thing. And that, if there is more in 25 years, I will likely be one of the folks people wistfully remember as someone who "would have loved this".
You are where we leave Dale, the Dale who, his face superimposed over the proceedings", comes to understand the hardest truth. The truth Laura whispers in his ear. Tha tis a pretty terrible place to be, but let us step back in awe of the artist's ability to make us feel this way.
There is more story.
Well, if this destination ruined your journey, then I'm sorry. Hopefully you won't discredit the many weeks spent on this forum. I'm happy you were along for the ride even if you end up deciding the destination wasn't worth it.
Oh no, nothing like that. I'm not in the "this all sucked" phase. I'm still processing and trying to figure it out. Probably over-analyzing my own stance and feelings. Nothing is ruined, but at this moment, nothing is made better. Giving it time. Going through my grief stages.
It should be noted that my grief is not due to things not ending the way I wanted or expected. I think it's more because a) it's ended (maybe?), b) the "ending" was so confusing to me, c) I will never get to visit Disney World, and/or d) I don't know. I'm just sad.
I am very conflicted.
I'm glad you were here too. 🙂
I didn't even realize about "detective" until MJ pointed it out
I understand grief. Take all the time you need. I wrote my initial reactions to the finale a long time ago, which is why I can be flippant now. It's buried I'm sure. Folks came out of the woodwork to express their disdain. Initially it Aggravated me but that turned to laughter fairly quickly. My first thought after viewing the finale was, "this needs to simmer for a while." I've since watched it three times. It's not an easy ending to accept, but it's a powerful and evocative one, IMO. It grew on me as most things that challenge me do.
I think I would be more resigned to the journey if it hadn't taken so many detours and getting lost along the way. And I'm not talking about the "oh, lost, here's a new adventure" but more of a "oh crap I'm lost and I'm gonna get shot or abducted by aliens and anally probed. Plus I'm outta gas, have no cell service and that's a lot of owls staring at me" kind of lost.
I clearly managed my expectations poorly. Which is a big part of the conflict. I knew it wouldn't all be summed up, I thought I had a handle on not having too many, if any, expectations. I failed.
But in that failure I have only room for improvement and growth and acceptance, if not understanding.
I truly and deeply appreciate your support and for not attacking me while I work through it all.
But I will ask, how was the journey?
Amazing. This was the most enjoyable TV series or movie I have ever witnessed. The final two were kind of messed up. It really felt like p. 17 was rushed (although good overall) and then 18 just dragged along. I wish the last two had been combined into a single 2 hour finale with the split being 70/30 instead of 50/50.
That said, I feel that what made me upset was knowing that this was the end - not only this series, but perhaps overall. With that looming, the interminable road trip caused me to glance at the clock time after time, and the payoff was disappointing.
Still, overall, it's been a mesmerizing last 3 months.
Keep working it through, Brandy. All else apart, I want to know what the 3rd badge is!
Keep working it through, Brandy. All else apart, I want to know what the 3rd badge is!
We will probably have to rely on Detective Sam to answer that for us.
Or maybe there really is no third badge. There will just be a blood curdling scream and cut to black.
Or nihilism 101.
No. This is not nihilism. That is a different animal. Nihilism wouldn't include Occultism, Native religious mythology, etc . . . Solipsism maybe.
Not to mention Taoism, Buddhism, Jungianism (is that a word)
Or nihilism 101.
Existentialists are just nihilists in denial. Or de-nihil, if you like. 😉
Yesterday I went through all of those reactions. And I couldn't stop thinking about it. I still can't. Now I'm out the other side of my 'grief' I feel empty. So I'm going to dive back in and work out how the work talks to me, what it means to ME and become comfortable with it.
No other TV show in history will ever do this to people. It's really incredible...
Keep working it through, Brandy. All else apart, I want to know what the 3rd badge is!
We will probably have to rely on Detective Sam to answer that for us.
Or maybe there really is no third badge. There will just be a blood curdling scream and cut to black.
Or, a cut to Pieter whispering what the next badge is into detective Sam's ear and we'll never know.
I forgot to add a very important detail to my Disney World journey.
Along the way, we meet many strange and wonderful (and some horrible) people. We get to know about them, we learn to care about them, we make them part of our lives. We think about these people during our looooooong long drives and we wonder how they are doing. We obsess over them because, well, what the hell else do we have to do on this incredibly long road trip.
When we finally make it to not Disney World, but the giant ball of twine or whatever it is, and out disappointment and sadness are sinking in and about to overwhelm us, Dad says, "Oh, by the way, I burned down every single town we visited and everyone in them is dead. Deal with it."
Is dad a sociopath who hates us?
Nobody said the stages/cycle of grief is a one time thing. I continue to move through it.
I think I know now what this reminds me of. The kids cartoon Dungeonmaster. Remember? Continuing with the theme park analogy, in the intro sequence to each episode the kids get on a rollercoaster at a theme park which transports them to another world where they all have alternate characters. But all they want to do is get home and be themselves again. And at the end of every episode they are about to go through a portal which would take them home when Vengor (Judy) comes along and slams it shut. Coop will never get back to Disneyland.
I think I know now what this reminds me of. The kids cartoon Dungeonmaster. Remember? Continuing with the theme park analogy, in the intro sequence to each episode the kids get on a rollercoaster at a theme park which transports them to another world where they all have alternate characters. But all they want to do is get home and be themselves again. And at the end of every episode they are about to go through a portal which would take them home when Vengor (Judy) comes along and slams it shut. Coop will never get back to Disneyland.
I don't know the cartoon, but I can visualize what you are describing.
And where do I find this Vengor cuz I'm gonna kick his or her ass!
(I really need to find an outlet for this post-Twin-Peaks-apocalypse aggression I'm experiencing.)
Being dumb - it's called Dungeons and Dragons not Dungeonmaster. Check this here - and check out the vortex...
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