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Plots that were unresolved or lead nowhere or were underwhelming

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Hi, I just registered to talk about the many plot arcs, cliffhangers and characters that got no resolution or ultimately just meant nothing or just were plain underwhelming. Please add your own ideas.

 

(Disclaimer: I was commenting this show on Reddit until now, but I had to abandon that community. It has become toxic, you can't write anything negative about David Lynch or express your true opinion in any way. David Lynch is perfect in everything he does and all TP:TR scenes are awesome and if you don't agree then you must be stupid. I hope that this forum is more forgiving in that regard. Also, excuse my English if I make a mistake, I'm Spanish.)

 

1) [Underwhelming] Steven and Becky. I thought Becky was going to be the new Laura Palmer and end up wrapped in plastic or something. In the end, she may or may not be dead. Steven died and nobody felt moved by it. These characters were kind of 'meh'.

 

2) [Leads nowhere] Red (Balthazar Getty). We end up knowing so little about him, or his relationship with Shelly. He does some cool shit in front of Richard, it looks like he is going to be big, but no. He just fades into black. Meh.

 

3) [Underwhelming] Richard Horne. At least we get to know that he is indeed Mr. C.'s son. But he killed a boy, he almost killed that woman, he assaulted his grandmother, he joined a gang... only to be vaporized in the end. He looked like a major character that could do something big. Lynch even teased us with the whole "Richard and Linda" thing; it seemed like everything was about him. But in the end, he just... burns. Meh.

 

4) [Underwhelming] Chantal and Hutch. They looked like big badasses who could be a serious threat to Cooper’s life. Instead, they just get killed in the most random way. Meh.

 

5) [Underwhelming] Mr. C.’s plan. It seems like he was looking for an entrance to the White Lodge, but he got easily trapped and fooled. He didn’t look menacing anymore, in fact he looked funny in that weird cage. He then enters the Sheriff Station for no particular reason that we could understand, only to be easily taken down. Well, that was an underwhelming final boss. Yes, BOB scaped (I thought he was removed from him in Part 8?) and caused some trouble, but it didn’t look menacing. In fact, that scene seemed quite absurd and funny. Meh.

 

6) [Underwhelming] Cooper returning to Twin Peaks. He rushes by the entrance sign, goes straight to the Sheriff Station, exchanges a handful of sentences with the locals, and that’s it. I didn’t expected an Asterix ending with everyone eating cherry pie at the RR, but c’mon, that was practically nothing.

 

7) [Unresolved] Who phoned Mr. C. and said that wanted to be with BOB again? I dare you to find a reasonable explanation to this.

 

8) [Leads nowhere] Hawk and Log Lady’s prophecies. Think about it. In the end, Hawk did absolutely nothing useful for Cooper. We were so excited thinking that Hawk was going to find Cooper and wake him up. But no, in the end, Cooper waked up by himself, and Hawk did nothing. Margaret did not provide useful information. The only useful thing that they know is that there are two Coopers (so Lucy can safely kill one of them), but that is information is provided by Major Briggs, not the Log Lady. Also, remember that Hawk went to Glastonbury Grove for absolutely no reason.

 

9) [Underwhelming] Mother/Experiment/Judy. She looked like a big menace who could unleash some serious trouble on Twin Peaks. She looked like the Big Baddy to be defeated. But, in the end, she just… does something to the timeline… or maybe not… not really scary. Also, I don’t understand why a hot actress was cast to play this part. It’s incomprehensible to me. Also, the answer to who is Judy felt extremely underwhelming: it’s an alias for Mother. Ok. It would have been more entertaining if she had been… something else. Meh.

 

10) [Leads nowhere] Audrey Horne and all of those Roadhouse conversations. I feel like all those random Roadhouse conversations are part of the Audrey storyline (they are happening inside her ‘world’, whatever that is). Could somebody make a total count of how many minutes did we spend on all of that? For what? Billy, Tina, Chuck, Charlie… This is probably the biggest ‘meh’ of all. I don’t think anybody could watch this season again sitting through all those boring conversations again. We thought they were building up to something, but no --they were actually just random boring conversations. And the fate of Audrey is so extremely vague that ultimately means nothing. It could be literally anything.

 

11) [Underwhelming] The humming sound. Oh, my god, we were so excited, remember? What is that humming sound at the hotel? Is it Josie? Is it Audrey? Is it Laura Palmer? Is it Mother? No. It was just MIKE again strolling the corridors. Meh.

 

12) [Underwhelming] The hotel room key. For absolutely no reason, that key opens a corridor to The Zone. The same Zone that Cooper is now able to communicate with at will. Meh. Ok.

 

13) [Leads nowhere] Carl saying a man not to sell his blood. We had so many theories on this one as well, remember? We’ve been tricked: it meant nothing. Again.

 

14) [Leads nowhere] Renault’s new prostitution bussiness. Remember that floor sweeping and a phone call about prostitutes? Another boring thing that we endured because we thought it meant something. No. Nope. Niet. Nada. It really was five minutes of floor sweeping.

 

15) [Underwhelming] Naido and Wally. Let me get this straight: Wally did absolutely nothing to save the day. Nothing. Zero. Niet. Nada. Also, nobody wanted to kill Naido; BOB ignores her as he attacks Cooper and Freddie. She turns into Diane for no reason (Cooper does nothing to accomplish this). Why would Mr. C. trap Diane inside the Purple Room? How did he have access to it?

 

16) [Leads nowhere] Jerry Horne. I read online theories about where Jerry was going to end up, or who he was going to encounter, that were so much more entertaining than what we actually got. So he just ends up in Wyoming naked. Ok. Who cares, again?

 

17) [Leads nowhere] Beverly. She has a dying husband and is in love with Ben. Ok. So what? Uneventful.

 

18) [Leads nowhere] Andy meeting with Billy. I think this is part of Audrey’s world, but who could be sure? Anyway, it means nothing and ties into nothing. Same goes for the ‘has anybody seen Billy?’ thing.

 

19) [Unresolved] Chet Desmond. Who cares about him? Fuck him! Non-existance!

 

20) [Leads nowhere] Sarah freaking out at the supermarket. One more example of a cool scene that we were sure meant something, but not really. It could mean anything, or nothing. Who cares? Certainly not Lynch.

 

I could add more in the future.

 

Also, let me add some personal, controversial opinions:

 

  • The ‘Dougie experience’ now seems even more pointless and fustrating, in retrospective. We were patiently waiting because we thought that it was building to a big return of Cooper to Twin Peaks. But now that all is said and done it seems like Lynch didn’t want Cooper in the show at all. He is present for only a few minutes only to be transformed again into someone else. Lynch didn’t want Cooper in the show, period.

  • Sarah being so evil as to destroy Laura’s portrait is the more depressing and dark way to end this story. (I’m sure there won’t be a 4th season; nobody will pay for it.) It seems to me as if Lynch himself would be smashing the Twin Peaks mythos forever.

  • I hate time travelling and parallel universes. I am a fan of comic-books, but anytime a character goes back in time to undo events, I’m like ‘OH FUCK HERE WE GO AGAIN’. And now I had to eat a fucking time travelling story in the most unexpected and inconvenient place. Not amused.

  • Cooper ends up in an even darker place than at the end of S2. I’m telling you: Lynch hates Twin Peaks, Cooper and Audrey Horne; and even moreso, he hates its fans. It’s the only sensible explanation.

 

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 3:01 am
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You forgot the most important plot point that was resolved: Major Briggs' head is chillin' in the White Lodge with the Fireman and señorita Dido, so I'm good, actually. 

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 3:31 am
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The horse is the white of the eye. At least the horse got some resolution. 

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 4:05 am
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We never got to find out what was in Sarah's kitchen. Who the bald guy was with Mr C. And how's Annie?

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 4:22 am
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Who was the frog mouth girl? What did the Log Lady mean her log was turning to gold? The insurance guy talking to Lucy, and the box that shrank and grew. 

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 4:25 am
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Agree with the OP about Reddit. It's a great place to read theories, but you can't say anything negative about David Lynch. 

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 4:26 am
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And why was Sarah Palmer's face superimposed with that of the Jumping Man? 

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 6:13 am
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Posted by: Damien Crowley

Agree with the OP about Reddit. It's a great place to read theories, but you can't say anything negative about David Lynch. 

I've been called stupid several times today in different websites. Only because I didn't like the finale. I didn't expect this kind of fanatism about a Lynch work, specially since I'm not attacking anyone's opinions. You liked it? Good. I didn't.

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 6:23 am
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Posted by: Álvaro Martínez Hernández
Posted by: Damien Crowley

Agree with the OP about Reddit. It's a great place to read theories, but you can't say anything negative about David Lynch. 

I've been called stupid several times today in different websites. Only because I didn't like the finale. I didn't expect this kind of fanatism about a Lynch work, specially since I'm not attacking anyone's opinions. You liked it? Good. I didn't.

I wasn't thrilled about how season 3 ended either, but overall I'm satisfied with the show.  It's cool though even if you don't like TP much. Heck I don't know anyone outside the web who even watches this, lol. 

In fairness though, most of the posters in this forum are nice and won't hold it against you for criticizing Lynch or the show. 

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 6:47 am
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Wow, this is overwhelming when you read it straight:( Apart from obvious plots thanks for reminding me about bald guy (what about bonsai tree?) and this phone call about being with Bob again...

I totally agree about Becky, Steven and Red! There was so much tension built up around Becky. She was announced in the first part, then we just saw some tiny bits of her, finally we don't know if she's alive. That could be kinda cool but remeber her tantrum and this strange long hall shot? What the hell was that? Speaking of halls, what about Tammy?

Hawk/Log Lady. Extremely frustrating... what was it all about? The last performance of Catherine Coulson, so powerful and emotional leads to... nothing? I can only find the explanation that she gave Hawk some advice not for finding Cooper etc but for himself as he is a wise man who knows more than average. Interesting that Log Lady character is beyond these alternate realities, no matter if Laura was killed or not, Margaret and her Log and their wisdom was always there.

What I actually like: humming sound which is Mike (both in Great Northern and Dougie's hospital but funny thing not in Dougie's house, why?) who didn't speak backwards. 

Chantal and Hutch were Tarantinoesque addition and they end up great, this is what they deserved.

I like the idea that MrC isn't some major player in spiritual level, he's just some criminal with big ego. For 25 years he's looking for something that original Cooper and mjr Briggs knew for a long time. I like the fact he was expelled from White Lodge and sent to sheriff station which was quite surprising for him. And he was killed by Lucy! But I need and answer for one thing: he really was looking for an entrance to the White Lodge or was he tricked again? Cause based on his ace card he wanted to get to Mother/Judy/Experiment?

 

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 7:02 am
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Another question: how long has Coop been in a relationship with Diane? Before he disappeared for 25 years in the Black Lodge, he was with Annie. So was he seeing Diane at the time? Or did he break up with Diane, fell in love with Annie and then fell in love with Diane again? 

 

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 7:22 am
 ella
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I think they had some crush on each other but they weren't in a relationship. Some kind of today's It's complicated:)

 

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 7:32 am
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I wrote this on another site but I think it's relevant here:

Before I watched the last part, I imagined a reality where Twin Peaks' original run never ended, and stories like Mulholland Drive existed as plots within an ongoing Lynch series that was less about resolutions and more about moments. Because our reality's Twin Peaks never really ended before and it hasn't ended now, not in the sense of plots resolving. 

So if we take Red as an example, the scene with Richard can be taken ambiguously (like DL loves to do) as either Richard tripping/Red having Black Lodge powers or at least an awareness of those forces (as many of the evil but mundane TP characters do, eg. Jaques Renault)/ominous time dilation.

Plot lines don't need resolution if you enjoy the moments along the way. That has always been my view of Twin Peaks and it surprises me that people get frustrated when their favourite mysteries aren't resolved. 

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 8:00 am
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Posted by: Damien Crowley

Another question: how long has Coop been in a relationship with Diane? Before he disappeared for 25 years in the Black Lodge, he was with Annie. So was he seeing Diane at the time? Or did he break up with Diane, fell in love with Annie and then fell in love with Diane again? 

Diane told something about in episode 16, I posted here:  It only happened once  (link to episode 16 discussion)

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 8:09 am
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Posted by: ella

Wow, this is overwhelming when you read it straight:( Apart from obvious plots thanks for reminding me about bald guy (what about bonsai tree?) and this phone call about being with Bob again...

I totally agree about Becky, Steven and Red! There was so much tension built up around Becky. She was announced in the first part, then we just saw some tiny bits of her, finally we don't know if she's alive. That could be kinda cool but remeber her tantrum and this strange long hall shot? What the hell was that? Speaking of halls, what about Tammy?

Hawk/Log Lady. Extremely frustrating... what was it all about? The last performance of Catherine Coulson, so powerful and emotional leads to... nothing? I can only find the explanation that she gave Hawk some advice not for finding Cooper etc but for himself as he is a wise man who knows more than average. Interesting that Log Lady character is beyond these alternate realities, no matter if Laura was killed or not, Margaret and her Log and their wisdom was always there.

What I actually like: humming sound which is Mike (both in Great Northern and Dougie's hospital but funny thing not in Dougie's house, why?) who didn't speak backwards. 

Chantal and Hutch were Tarantinoesque addition and they end up great, this is what they deserved.

I like the idea that MrC isn't some major player in spiritual level, he's just some criminal with big ego. For 25 years he's looking for something that original Cooper and mjr Briggs knew for a long time. I like the fact he was expelled from White Lodge and sent to sheriff station which was quite surprising for him. And he was killed by Lucy! But I need and answer for one thing: he really was looking for an entrance to the White Lodge or was he tricked again? Cause based on his ace card he wanted to get to Mother/Judy/Experiment?

 

THEN WHO WAS PHONE?

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 8:38 am
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