perhaps the Dreamer is Cooper, and the Dream is the "troubling one" he mentioned to Cole in FWWM....we didn't get details then, and Jeffries appears & seems to wonder who or which Cooper is there...his reluctance to discuss Judy at the moment could stem from Jeffries having 'just talked" it with more-or-less with both Coopers in the "dream".
Coopers dream occurs a few days before 2/16/89....so the dream has already happened in 1989....and what seemed like a short dream had spanned a long time.
it is the past that the TP cast were existing in....but that dream ended long ago...the ripples unfolded and ended.
Maybe "Richard" thinks is close to 1989...he did say he thinks Carrie is a "girl" named Laura Palmer....not a 'woman"....& funny that Carrie says I'm not "her"....an adj that suggests knowledge (meaning I know her, and I'm not her vs who are you talking about)....side tracked, sorry
not sure how this fits all together...
Very well reasoned, very well said. And I hate its truth. I absolutely hate it. Of course it's not real, its a TV show. I'd prefer a Twin Peaks that was not so damn self-aware. I'm depressed. If I can find Jeffries' hotel room I may travel back 2 years in time and fiddle with Lynch's script for parts 17 & 18. What could go wrong?
Maybe the same thing that went wrong when Agent Cooper tried to fiddle with saving Laura from dying in 1989. It's best not to fiddle. 🙂
I'd be more accepting of the dream theory (or one of the dream theories, since there are many variations) if the show ended with a confused Cooper asking what year it is and Carrie looking at him and shaking her head. But the house formerly known as the Palmer house looks as if it's occupied by black lodge entities and Carrie seems to realize this and screams. I think Cooper is starting to realize it too.
One thing I didn't catch when I first watched 17 is that when PJ finds the passage to 1989, he doesn't say to Cooper, "You'll find Laura there." He says Cooper will find Judy there. This reinforces the idea that Cooper's main mission isn't to save Laura, it's to find Judy.
I don't think he screwed up, trying to be a hero by saving Laura's life. I think he was following the overall plan to find Judy. And he succeeded. The story, dream, alternate reality can certainly continue.
[Bold mine, for emphasis] YES, exactly this! I believe that he succeeded, and that this was part of the Fireman's plan (based on the clues and the vision shown to Andy, which shows the #6 pole outside Carrie's house in Odessa). What I'm clueless about is what any of them plan to do with Judy when they find her!
[Bold mine, for emphasis] YES, exactly this! I believe that he succeeded, and that this was part of the Fireman's plan (based on the clues and the vision shown to Andy, which shows the #6 pole outside Carrie's house in Odessa). What I'm clueless about is what any of them plan to do with Judy when they find her!
We know BOB is only afraid of one thing...MIKE. But you're right Justine, if Judy is the extreme negative force, what would Judy be afraid of?
The Laura orb/spirit was created to defeat, or at least counter-balance Judy and her evil influence on the world, I believe. That's why Cooper had to bring her home, to face mother.
I agree, however I believe the dream is David Lynch's and ours
Fire walk with