I know these numbers don't' actually mean a lot because viewing has changed so much but I'm still stunned. I wonder how much delaying Cooper's arrival effected things. I know Dogie Jones almost made me stop watching.
I know these numbers don't' actually mean a lot because viewing has changed so much but I'm still stunned. I wonder how much delaying Cooper's arrival effected things. I know Dogie Jones almost made me stop watching.
Am I the only one who loved Dougie from the beginning? It seems for most, he gradually grew on them............like a fungus. But I thought he was adorably great from the moment he popped out of the outlet. I was actually sad to see him finally go.
I know these numbers don't' actually mean a lot because viewing has changed so much but I'm still stunned. I wonder how much delaying Cooper's arrival effected things. I know Dogie Jones almost made me stop watching.
I'm not surprised, given the negative response on another site I use. I'd expected many people there to be looking forward to TPTR but absolutely nobody was interested. A few people said they lost interest with it during the original shows, mainly second series. Some said it didn't appeal at all, and others said they hated it on first sight.
Weird is the new normal for tv now and when it comes with an easy to digest storyline, that's going to be all most people want.
I know these numbers don't' actually mean a lot because viewing has changed so much but I'm still stunned. I wonder how much delaying Cooper's arrival effected things. I know Dogie Jones almost made me stop watching.
Am I the only one who loved Dougie from the beginning? It seems for most, he gradually grew on them............like a fungus. But I thought he was adorably great from the moment he popped out of the outlet. I was actually sad to see him finally go.
I would have been fine with him as a stand alone character but still less screen time. As the only Cooper around? It was excruciating for me.
I know these numbers don't' actually mean a lot because viewing has changed so much but I'm still stunned. I wonder how much delaying Cooper's arrival effected things. I know Dogie Jones almost made me stop watching.
I think that's a big part, but only part, of the issue. Generally, I think more casual viewers just expected a bigger helping of coffee and pie and Twin Peaks nostalgia and feel-good Cooper detective work and catch-phrases. But withholding Cooper was maybe the most pointed way of saying, No, you're not getting that.
And I'm NOT mocking the cherry pie crowd: Truth be told, I'd've enjoyed that stuff too. And these things aren't mutually exclusive. Lynch & Co. could've given us more of that and still spent plenty of time spiraling off into the weirder corners of Lynch World. Eighteen hours is a lot.
But that's not the choice they made, and they were damned clear about it. To their credit, they didn't start off making this look like a fan-service show only to pull a bait-and-switch.
They certainly knew that wouldn't be the crowd-pleasing choice. If they cared about pleasing anyone, it was critics and award panels (and just maybe a few weirdos like us). Whatever you thought of it, you have to tip your hat: They made the show they wanted to make.
To me, the Return wasn't grounded in anything solid. I loved that about it. Without having a strong emotional connection to characters or a clear narrative, it would be hard for any casual viewer to stick with it.
I think Chrysta Bell said the original TP was based on emotions and TR is based on experiences. That sums it up pretty well to me.
To me, the Return wasn't grounded in anything solid. I loved that about it. Without having a strong emotional connection to characters or a clear narrative, it would be hard for any casual viewer to stick with it.
I think Chrysta Bell said the original TP was based on emotions and TR is based on experiences. That sums it up pretty well to me.
Hmmm, honestly that would be more enlightening to me if it hadn't come from Bell.
Just one more thought on Lynch & Co.'s refusal to make a fan-friendly show: Did we ever hear the particulars on Lynch's dispute with Showtime, and could this have been it? I'm imagining a dialogue sort of like this:
Showtime: So we're envisioning a show that will really pull in fans of the old Twin Peaks with a lot of fun callbacks and nostalgia. Is that what you're thinking?
David Lynch: Not really; no.
ST: Okay... but you're going to tie up some loose ends from the old story, right?
DL: Probably not.
ST: But... seriously... I mean... I know you don't want to promise anything... but this is all about Agent Cooper, right? Coffee? Pie? Crime-solving? Tibet?
DL: Mmmmm............ No.
ST: ...........
DL: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
To me, the Return wasn't grounded in anything solid. I loved that about it. Without having a strong emotional connection to characters or a clear narrative, it would be hard for any casual viewer to stick with it.
I think Chrysta Bell said the original TP was based on emotions and TR is based on experiences. That sums it up pretty well to me.
Hmmm, honestly that would be more enlightening to me if it hadn't come from Bell.
She can tell me anything she wants!
I love messing with you about her ha.
To me, the Return wasn't grounded in anything solid. I loved that about it. Without having a strong emotional connection to characters or a clear narrative, it would be hard for any casual viewer to stick with it.
I think Chrysta Bell said the original TP was based on emotions and TR is based on experiences. That sums it up pretty well to me.
Hmmm, honestly that would be more enlightening to me if it hadn't come from Bell.
Sadly, fan hatred of a main new character likely doesn't help with Season 4 considerations.
Just one more thought on Lynch & Co.'s refusal to make a fan-friendly show: Did we ever hear the particulars on Lynch's dispute with Showtime, and could this have been it? I'm imagining a dialogue sort of like this:
Showtime: So we're envisioning a show that will really pull in fans of the old Twin Peaks with a lot of fun callbacks and nostalgia. Is that what you're thinking?
David Lynch: Not really; no.
ST: Okay... but you're going to tie up some loose ends from the old story, right?
DL: Probably not.
ST: But... seriously... I mean... I know you don't want to promise anything... but this is all about Agent Cooper, right? Coffee? Pie? Crime-solving? Tibet?
DL: Mmmmm............ No.
ST: ...........
DL: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah I hate to say it, but I'd have to look at him and say, okay, your doing a follow up to a 27 year old show but your not going to focus on the town, characters (for the most part), or the unanswered questions from it?
Well its been great talking, I think you should approach Oprah about airing this show on her network. I think they need a few thousand more viewers and this would be great for that station.
Yeah, okay this was a bit dark for me, as I did enjoy the show, but I know some friends that didn't watch past the first couple of episodes because of this exact feeling. I really feel this time art did overreach a critical mass audience.
To me, the Return wasn't grounded in anything solid. I loved that about it. Without having a strong emotional connection to characters or a clear narrative, it would be hard for any casual viewer to stick with it.
I think Chrysta Bell said the original TP was based on emotions and TR is based on experiences. That sums it up pretty well to me.
Hmmm, honestly that would be more enlightening to me if it hadn't come from Bell.
Sadly, fan hatred of a main new character likely doesn't help with Season 4 considerations.
Perhaps it will help with recasting or deletion of the character. We know DL has no problem pretending some characters never ever existed.
This doesn't include the 2 million people who streamed it online
Just one more thought on Lynch & Co.'s refusal to make a fan-friendly show: Did we ever hear the particulars on Lynch's dispute with Showtime, and could this have been it? I'm imagining a dialogue sort of like this:
Showtime: So we're envisioning a show that will really pull in fans of the old Twin Peaks with a lot of fun callbacks and nostalgia. Is that what you're thinking?
David Lynch: Not really; no.
ST: Okay... but you're going to tie up some loose ends from the old story, right?
DL: Probably not.
ST: But... seriously... I mean... I know you don't want to promise anything... but this is all about Agent Cooper, right? Coffee? Pie? Crime-solving? Tibet?
DL: Mmmmm............ No.
ST: ...........
DL: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah I hate to say it, but I'd have to look at him and say, okay, your doing a follow up to a 27 year old show but your not going to focus on the town, characters (for the most part), or the unanswered questions from it?
Well its been great talking, I think you should approach Oprah about airing this show on her network. I think they need a few thousand more viewers and this would be great for that station.
Yeah, okay this was a bit dark for me, as I did enjoy the show, but I know some friends that didn't watch past the first couple of episodes because of this exact feeling. I really feel this time art did overreach a critical mass audience.
I say AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA to both of you. Pure genius on both accounts.
This doesn't include the 2 million people who streamed it online
Source? Part 17/18, or other parts? [See the link in the OP. ]
Thanks for sharing this. But stats without sources ...
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