First of all, apologies for my English.
I'm not sure if this was already mentioned, but there might be a very strong link between ep8 and ep18 - namely, between the scene in the Motel and what follows (ep18) and 1956 "gotta light/bug/girl" scene.
1st hint is obviously the song - "My prayer" plays in both scenes.
2nd is geography: Odessa is close to New Mexico border. We see Cooper drive briefly and then entering the town of Odessa
I'm not fond of over-interpretation, however these two elements make the link between the two scenes very strong. What is the significance of this tie? Would this mean that the boy and girl are in fact Richard and Linda? I'm not sure, I don't even think it is so relevant to establish such a definitive equivalence. What I think is relevant, on the contrary, is that Carrie lives close to where it all started. What do you think?
First of all, apologies for my English.
I'm not sure if this was already mentioned, but there might be a very strong link between ep8 and ep18 - namely, between the scene in the Motel and what follows (ep18) and 1956 "gotta light/bug/girl" scene.
1st hint is obviously the song - "My prayer" plays in both scenes.
2nd is geography: Odessa is close to New Mexico border. We see Cooper drive briefly and then entering the town of Odessa
I'm not fond of over-interpretation, however these two elements make the link between the two scenes very strong. What is the significance of this tie? Would this mean that the boy and girl are in fact Richard and Linda? I'm not sure, I don't even think it is so relevant to establish such a definitive equivalence. What I think is relevant, on the contrary, is that Carrie lives close to where it all started. What do you think?
BRAVO! FINALLY, SOMEONE MADE THE CONNECTION (HAVE BEEN SILENTLY WATCHING THE FORUM, ANTICIPATING THIS MOMENT). ODESSA IS ACTUALLY 430 MILES FROM LOS ALAMOS (THE TRINITY BOMB TEST SITE). COOPER'S FIRST CAR, THE MOTEL (INTERIOR/EXTERIOR), THE SONG, ARE ALL FROM THE SAME 50's 60's ERA/DECADE.
But surely the girl and boy from 1956 would be older than Linda and Richard in the present and more Sarah Palmer's age and so wouldn't grow up to be them.
But surely the girl and boy from 1956 would be older than Linda and Richard in the present and more Sarah Palmer's age and so wouldn't grow up to be them.
I agree. Also - Diane and Coop "jumped" to another dimension, so it doesn't really make sense to look for straight equivalences. In fact, looking for a "parallel" Richard and Linda would be more appropriate in a Mulholland Drive/Lost Highway setting, not in Twin Peaks
First of all, apologies for my English.
I'm not sure if this was already mentioned, but there might be a very strong link between ep8 and ep18 - namely, between the scene in the Motel and what follows (ep18) and 1956 "gotta light/bug/girl" scene.
1st hint is obviously the song - "My prayer" plays in both scenes.
2nd is geography: Odessa is close to New Mexico border. We see Cooper drive briefly and then entering the town of Odessa
I'm not fond of over-interpretation, however these two elements make the link between the two scenes very strong. What is the significance of this tie? Would this mean that the boy and girl are in fact Richard and Linda? I'm not sure, I don't even think it is so relevant to establish such a definitive equivalence. What I think is relevant, on the contrary, is that Carrie lives close to where it all started. What do you think?
BRAVO! FINALLY, SOMEONE MADE THE CONNECTION (HAVE BEEN SILENTLY WATCHING THE FORUM, ANTICIPATING THIS MOMENT). ODESSA IS ACTUALLY 430 MILES FROM LOS ALAMOS (THE TRINITY BOMB TEST SITE). COOPER'S FIRST CAR, THE MOTEL (INTERIOR/EXTERIOR), THE SONG, ARE ALL FROM THE SAME 50's 60's ERA/DECADE.
thanks for putting together the most important dots (430!)
But surely the girl and boy from 1956 would be older than Linda and Richard in the present and more Sarah Palmer's age and so wouldn't grow up to be them.
Especially because Richard is such a common name, I wouldn't assume that in the Fireman's reminder it refers to the (apparent) son of Bad Cooper, even though many people assume so. There could be a connection; I'm just saying, don't assume.
great spot on the 430 mark! However didnt Ep 8 specify White Sands?
Either way, I thought there was something between the SW area, thought the palm trees through me off), and I am more and more betting the couple from 1956 being Richard and Linda (they drove a 66 Galaxy witch would of put them in their 20s and Leyland and Sarah didnt meet until college)
great spot on the 430 mark!
yet nobody seems to care 🙂
great spot on the 430 mark!
yet nobody seems to care 🙂
I do care - what you spotted is the most important finding of this thread!
Yeah that could be the case, i see the connection.. also we dont really know what year it is.. as Cooper asks.. Sarah makes sense if we are in the 2010's, but if we are in the past the boy and the girl could be Richard and Linda..
also did anyone else noticed the marks on Diane's/Linda's knees? or am i just imagining things? 😛
Yeah that could be the case, i see the connection.. also we dont really know what year it is.. as Cooper asks.. Sarah makes sense if we are in the 2010's, but if we are in the past the boy and the girl could be Richard and Linda..
also did anyone else noticed the marks on Diane's/Linda's knees? or am i just imagining things? 😛
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great spot on the 430 mark!
yet nobody seems to care 🙂
I do care - what you spotted that's the most important finding of this thread!
lol. No, I mean, generally, there are hundreds of clues that are so easy to spot but rarely people read/listen to them, even when they are on plain site (and mostly because each viewer builds a fetish angle and doesn't wanna let it go).
Isn't it comedic that there are still people debating as to whether it was a dream or not when Cooper himself says that it was (and lynch has Cooper's daydreamer face on camera for 5 minutes) or the fact that ALL Lynch's films have a theme of dreaming (even the earliest ones as secondary theme)?
Yeah that could be the case, i see the connection.. also we dont really know what year it is.. as Cooper asks.. Sarah makes sense if we are in the 2010's, but if we are in the past the boy and the girl could be Richard and Linda..
also did anyone else noticed the marks on Diane's/Linda's knees? or am i just imagining things? 😛
There is no doubt that they are in the 50's-60's, there's not a single element NOT from that era on the motel night scene. Whoever the dreamer is they must have lived the 50's, the 80's, the 10's (otherwise how can they dream of all these places without the environments of the dreams looking weird? they look very period-accurate).
One guess would be that Sarah is the dreamer (the delusional dreamer of the purgatory or the one lost in daydreaming) who lost her daughter and is imagining fbi agents trying to save her girl. If the motif is the same as the rest of the Lynch films (guilt/purgatory denial dreams), Sarah is the only one character I can imagine being in such a state. It is her voice screaming Laura's name at the very end of the show.
great spot on the 430 mark!
yet nobody seems to care 🙂
I do care - what you spotted that's the most important finding of this thread!
lol. No, I mean, generally, there are hundreds of clues that are so easy to spot but rarely people read/listen to them, even when they are on plain site (and mostly because each viewer builds a fetish angle and doesn't wanna let it go).
Isn't it comedic that there are still people debating as to whether it was a dream or not when Cooper himself says that it was (and lynch has Cooper's daydreamer face on camera for 5 minutes) or the fact that ALL Lynch's films have a theme of dreaming (even the earliest ones as secondary theme)?
I agree. At the same time, this whole season was very complex, so it's kind of easy to get lost. I think too that we have all the clues in front of us in terms of story-telling elements (again, sorry for my English here).
There's another layer which is interesting to analyse: the whole Roadhouse/Twin Peaks where Laura didn't die appearances/Audrey - and I mean analyse from the fictional point of view (not necessarely "what does it mean?", but "how was is built?")
Isn't it comedic that there are still people debating as to whether it was a dream or not when Cooper himself says that it was (and lynch has Cooper's daydreamer face on camera for 5 minutes) or the fact that ALL Lynch's films have a theme of dreaming (even the earliest ones as secondary theme)?
Whether what was a dream or not? Lost Highway and Mulholland Drive, for example, involve elaborate fantasies (not the same as "dreams"), but the films as a whole do not merely depict dreams; they depict a reality polluted with the characters' fantasies. This whole vague "it's all a dream" thing is starting to bug me. If that's all there is to it, what's left to discuss?
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