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The idea that Vedder's song goes well with the show is hardly surprising given Lynch specifically chose the musicians and songs used for the show.
As far as syncing, it isn't from Lynch. It's from whoever chose to mash these things up.
If you read the credits of every episode you will see David Lynch is listed as an Additional Editor and also the sole credit for Sound Design. So the sync theory still holds.
Did you even watch the above video?
I don't need to read the credits to know Lynch was capable of doing this if he so chose. The sync theory doesn't hold because the only other person to receive an executive producer credit besides Lynch and Frost on this Season specifically shot down the idea, 3 different times. Yes, I watched the video, that doesn't change the fact that we've been told that Lynch did not INTEND the parts to be watched in this way. Is there some merit to it from an entertainment standpoint? Sure, but it isn't from Lynch.
If you are referring to Sabrina Sutherland, (she was a producer, not an editor), that particular question she answered was in regard to episodes 17 and 18 being played together.
She also said later that Lynch may well have edited some of it that way and she would not have known about it. There's a thread on here somewhere where it mentions what she said exactly.
The idea that Vedder's song goes well with the show is hardly surprising given Lynch specifically chose the musicians and songs used for the show.
As far as syncing, it isn't from Lynch. It's from whoever chose to mash these things up.
If you read the credits of every episode you will see David Lynch is listed as an Additional Editor and also the sole credit for Sound Design. So the sync theory still holds.
Did you even watch the above video?
I don't need to read the credits to know Lynch was capable of doing this if he so chose. The sync theory doesn't hold because the only other person to receive an executive producer credit besides Lynch and Frost on this Season specifically shot down the idea, 3 different times. Yes, I watched the video, that doesn't change the fact that we've been told that Lynch did not INTEND the parts to be watched in this way. Is there some merit to it from an entertainment standpoint? Sure, but it isn't from Lynch.
Until Lynch himself says it was not intentionally synced on places then it is still valid.
She also said later that Lynch may well have edited some of it that way and she would not have known about it. There's a thread on here somewhere where it mentions what she said exactly.
No, she didn't say anything about Lynch may have edited it this way, some or all. She shot it down 3 times. 3 different questions. She finally equivocated a bit when she started to realize how many people were asking about this and she might be effecting there enjoyment. But she was clear about it. And she did not have to be editing it herself to know Lynch's intentions.
Until Lynch himself says it was not intentionally synced on places then it is still valid.
As I stated in the other thread, this isn't true. It's just the opposite given her status on this production. Until Lynch confirms the syncing, it isn't valid.
RocksEm, two questions for you.
Why do you believe there is no audio for the Lynch/Frost Productions logo at the end of ep 18?
If you watched a side-by-side comparison, did you believe the following were simply coincidences or not actually in sync?
- 52:33 The cut to the Palmer living room (17) is in sync with the house door being closed (18).
- 54:28 Laura's scream (18) is in sync with the cut to black after Sarah smashes the photo (17).
- 54:34 The cut to black after Laura's scream (18) is in sync with the start of the scene with Cooper and Laura in the woods (17).
- 54:52 - The fade in of the drapes and music (17) is in sync with the fade out of the credits (18)
She also said later that Lynch may well have edited some of it that way and she would not have known about it. There's a thread on here somewhere where it mentions what she said exactly.
No, she didn't say anything about Lynch may have edited it this way, some or all. She shot it down 3 times. 3 different questions. She finally equivocated a bit when she started to realize how many people were asking about this and she might be effecting there enjoyment. But she was clear about it. And she did not have to be editing it herself to know Lynch's intentions.
From Wikipedia - "Executive producer (EP) is a position in the making of a commercial entertainment product. Depending on the medium, the executive producer may be concerned with management accounting or with associated legal issues (like copyrights or royalties).[1] In films, the executive producer generally contributes to the film's budget and usually does not work on set, in contrast to most other producers.[2]
She may not have known what Lynch's intentions were in how he edited it together if he didn't tell her. It wasn't her job to know those things.
He's always been a 'need to know' 'closed set' person, so the less people that knew what he was doing, the better.
RocksEm, two questions for you.
Why do you believe there is no audio for the Lynch/Frost Productions logo at the end of ep 18?
If you watched a side-by-side comparison, did you believe the following were simply coincidences or not actually in sync?
- 52:33 The cut to the Palmer living room (17) is in sync with the house door being closed (18).
- 54:28 Laura's scream (18) is in sync with the cut to black after Sarah smashes the photo (17).
- 54:34 The cut to black after Laura's scream (18) is in sync with the start of the scene with Cooper and Laura in the woods (17).
- 54:52 - The fade in of the drapes and music (17) is in sync with the fade out of the credits (18)
And the list of syncs I mentioned in the above video overlay.
And the list of syncs I mentioned in the above video overlay.
Personally, I don't believe there are concrete signs that these scenes from ep 16 and ep 18 were intended to be viewed side-by-side.
And the list of syncs I mentioned in the above video overlay.
Personally, I don't believe there are concrete signs that these scenes from ep 16 and ep 18 were intended to be viewed side-by-side.
I listed 9 that occur within the space of 7 minutes and the timing of all of them is perfectly matching the other scene, visually and audibly. I'd call that pretty synced up.
The video isn't done side by side either, it is overlayed, which means you see things like Vedder's spotlight tracking where Cooper walks and Audrey and Diane's face lining up at the end.
Until Lynch himself says it was not intentionally synced on places then it is still valid.
As I stated in the other thread, this isn't true. It's just the opposite given her status on this production. Until Lynch confirms the syncing, it isn't valid.
Lynch hasn't said that Twin Peaks has to be watched sideways in a tub of beans while smoking bleached mdf. Is that also 'still valid'?
Until Lynch himself says it was not intentionally synced on places then it is still valid.
As I stated in the other thread, this isn't true. It's just the opposite given her status on this production. Until Lynch confirms the syncing, it isn't valid.
Lynch hasn't said that Twin Peaks has to be watched sideways in a tub of beans while smoking bleached mdf. Is that also 'still valid'?
Lynch himself overlayed a couple of scenes in TPTR so it's not a far-fetched theory, especially when they scenes line up - or do you just call them coincidence?
What do you think Lynch would say about coincidences?
Twin Speak, yes it is possible that the scenes you identify were edited to be synchronized.
In my opinion, the cuts to black and traditional fade edits between scenes toward the end of 17/18 would seem to be more "concrete" examples of potential synchronization. Those edits, along with the lack of audio for Lynch/Frost productions would seem the most obvious syncs if any were actually intended.
If someone doesn't agree with potential syncs of the scene transitions at the end of 17/18, that person likely won't agree with any others.
Until Lynch himself says it was not intentionally synced on places then it is still valid.
As I stated in the other thread, this isn't true. It's just the opposite given her status on this production. Until Lynch confirms the syncing, it isn't valid.
Lynch hasn't said that Twin Peaks has to be watched sideways in a tub of beans while smoking bleached mdf. Is that also 'still valid'?
Lynch himself overlayed a couple of scenes in TPTR so it's not a far-fetched theory, especially when they scenes line up - or do you just call them coincidence?
What do you think Lynch would say about coincidences?
Let's find out:
Twin Speak, yes it is possible that the scenes you identify were edited to be synchronized.
In my opinion, the cuts to black and traditional fade edits between scenes toward the end of 17/18 would seem to be more "concrete" examples of potential synchronization. Those edits, along with the lack of audio for Lynch/Frost productions would seem the most obvious syncs if any were actually intended.
If someone doesn't agree with potential syncs of the scene transitions at the end of 17/18, that person likely won't agree with any others.
Both the Audrey and motel scene cut to black at the end of each.
Until Lynch himself says it was not intentionally synced on places then it is still valid.
As I stated in the other thread, this isn't true. It's just the opposite given her status on this production. Until Lynch confirms the syncing, it isn't valid.
Lynch hasn't said that Twin Peaks has to be watched sideways in a tub of beans while smoking bleached mdf. Is that also 'still valid'?
Lynch himself overlayed a couple of scenes in TPTR so it's not a far-fetched theory, especially when they scenes line up - or do you just call them coincidence?
What do you think Lynch would say about coincidences?
Let's find out:
"Fellas, coincidence and fate figure largely in our lives."
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