Around the dinner table, the conversation was lively. Thank you but for now, the forum has been archived.
I posted some of these thoughts in another thread but have been thinking about it further and wanted to expand and expound on them.
I've been thinking about this "it was a dream" business and found two things that have helped me cope with it.
First, the exact quote, "We live inside a dream." It's easy to fall into focusing on the "dream" part and despair: "It was all just a dream!" while forgetting the first two words: "We live." Perhaps the point isn't that Twin Peaks and all it's people we grew to love and/or hate were somehow fake, and some other place and time is more real. Perhaps the point is that all lives, all places, and all realities are a dream; they all exist in the mind and are only as real as they are believed. We live. AND we're inside a dream. That's ok.
Second, I call to mind the wise words of Dumbledore (JK Rowling): "Of course it's all happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?" Twin Peaks (the place and people) was as real as any other part of the show. Being a dream doesn't need to make it less real.
These thoughts help me feel better about the finale. The more I think about them, the more I feel that rather than diminish the things we've seen and enjoyed by categorizing them as "a dream," perhaps the enjoyment and love we have attained for these characters and places should elevate what it means to be "a dream" for us.
Neither Philip Jeffries in FWWM nor Dale Cooper in TPTR-18 said or implied we live in "just a" dream, diminishing the reality of it. We LIVE inside a DREAM! The Buddhists were right. Wordsworth was right. Like, isn't that the coolest freaking thing ever? There was no intent to disappoint the audience, nor to diminish the value of our beloved television characters by revealing this, I don't believe. I believe the intent was to reveal that a dream is what reality IS.
This is where I stand at the moment in regard to all of this. After further reflection I may change my views.
I posted some of these thoughts in another thread but have been thinking about it further and wanted to expand and expound on them.
I've been thinking about this "it was a dream" business and found two things that have helped me cope with it.
First, the exact quote, "We live inside a dream." It's easy to fall into focusing on the "dream" part and despair: "It was all just a dream!" while forgetting the first two words: "We live." Perhaps the point isn't that Twin Peaks and all it's people we grew to love and/or hate were somehow fake, and some other place and time is more real. Perhaps the point is that all lives, all places, and all realities are a dream; they all exist in the mind and are only as real as they are believed. We live. AND we're inside a dream. That's ok.
Second, I call to mind the wise words of Dumbledore (JK Rowling): "Of course it's all happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?" Twin Peaks (the place and people) was as real as any other part of the show. Being a dream doesn't need to make it less real.
These thoughts help me feel better about the finale. The more I think about them, the more I feel that rather than diminish the things we've seen and enjoyed by categorizing them as "a dream," perhaps the enjoyment and love we have attained for these characters and places should elevate what it means to be "a dream" for us.
Neither Philip Jeffries in FWWM nor Dale Cooper in TPTR-18 said or implied we live in "just a" dream, diminishing the reality of it. We LIVE inside a DREAM! The Buddhists were right. Wordsworth was right. Like, isn't that the coolest freaking thing ever? There was no intent to disappoint the audience, nor to diminish the value of our beloved television characters by revealing this, I don't believe. I believe the intent was to reveal that a dream is what reality IS.
This is where I stand at the moment in regard to all of this. After further reflection I may change my views.
Thanks, James. This is great. Couldn't agree more! There're plenty of things to dislike about The Return, but I have a hard time understanding why "the dream issue" has proven to be such a sticking point for so many folks here....
Because Monica Bellucci is hot so that bit stuck out in everybody's minds more than many other scenes. 🙂
Thanks, James. This is great. Couldn't agree more! There's plenty of things to dislike about The Return, but I have a hard time understanding why "the dream issue" has proven to be such a sticking point for so many folks here....
I think because it sounds cheap like: Cooper wakes up and says: i had a weird dream about the people in Twin Peaks. If you see it like that it would mean audrey, andy, lucy and hawk where not real, people we all loved in the serie. No one likes that. If you get into the theory of the dream it all makes more sence (the glitches, the weird circumstances, timelines)
Because Monica Bellucci is hot so that bit stuck out in everybody's minds more than many other scenes. 🙂
I had the same with ms Tremont 😉
I've been singing "Row, Row, Row Your Boat" in my mind all week long! 🙂
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