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(@xellosmaster)
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How can a room key 315, open a door in basement ?

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 6:46 am
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It's a dream. Everything is a dream. We live inside a dream.

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 10:46 am
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Posted by: Renata Stachowiak

How can a room key 315, open a door in basement ?

That was taken care of when the key arrived at the Great Northern.  Ben remarked they'd changed all the room locks years ago.  Obviously, they kept the old mechanical locks to use around the various service and utility areas.  Having spent some time working alongside hotel service and repair guys, it's a very likely scenario.

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 10:50 am
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Posted by: Renata Stachowiak

How can a room key 315, open a door in basement ?

Which Cooper got 5 minutes earlier from the sheriff who got it from Ben Horne who received it from a hooker who throw it in a mailbox...

Looks like someones dreaming 😉

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 10:51 am
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Posted by: Renata Stachowiak

How can a room key 315, open a door in basement ?

That was taken care of when the key arrived at the Great Northern.  Ben remarked they'd changed all the room locks years ago.  Obviously, they kept the old mechanical locks to use around the various service and utility areas.  Having spent some time working alongside hotel service and repair guys, it's a very likely scenario.

Are we speaking about rich Horn and his high lvl hotel or it is Africa and third World's countries ?

And it's not same lock ! I just watched old TP, it is not this lock.

 

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 11:28 am
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If you start pointing out things that aren't possible, you're going to have a lot of problems with Twin Peaks. 😉

This is a little random, but on the subject of whether this is all a dream: I keep thinking of a climactic passage from the Harry Potter series where Harry asks: "Is this real, or is it all happening inside my head?"

The reply from [someone; no spoilers] is: "Of course it's happening inside your head, but why on earth should that mean it isn't real?"

Just something to chew on. 😉

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 11:40 am
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There's also the pesky little fact that Cooper said, "We live inside a dream," just before the Sheriff Station and everyone in it faded to oblivion and Coop, Diane, and Cole re-appeared in the Great Northern basement. I'm not going to argue with Cooper's interpretation of his reality unless presented with very powerful evidence to contradict him.

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 11:49 am
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"By striving to do the impossible, man has always achieved what is possible. Those who have cautiously done no more than they believed possible have never taken a single step forward." - Mikhail Bakunin

 

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 11:52 am
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Posted by: Sonia Kay

If you start pointing out things that aren't possible, you're going to have a lot of problems with Twin Peaks. 😉

This is a little random, but on the subject of whether this is all a dream: I keep thinking of a climactic passage from the Harry Potter series where Harry asks: "Is this real, or is it all happening inside my head?"

The reply from [someone; no spoilers] is: "Of course it's happening inside your head, but why on earth should that mean it isn't real?"

Just something to chew on. 😉

Are you serious with that ? I try to discuss with people who don't think it is a dream. How can be, you didn't see that coming ? Topic is "If it's not a dream.." and I am waiting for arguments people who think it's real.

Advice. If someone does not want to talk and only carelessly post the posts, then maybe do it somewhere else.

I really thanks to SamXTherapy answer. He at last try to defend his theory.

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 12:02 pm
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Are you serious with that ? I try to discuss with people who don't think it is a dream. How can be, you didn't see that coming ? Topic is "If it's not a dream.." and I am waiting for arguments people who think it's real.

Advice. If someone does not want to talk and only carelessly post the posts, then maybe do it somewhere else.

I really thanks to SamXTherapy answer. He at last try to defend his theory.

Sorry, got a little stream-of-consciousness with the Harry Potter thought. But I wasn't being snide; I did have a point. If you're going to ask how it's possible for the room 315 key to open a door in the basement, you can just as easily ask how it's possible for a woman's soul to get sucked into a wooden knob, or for a man's hair to turn white overnight - never mind the bigger, weirder supernatural questions embedded in the show. By this standard, all or most of the original series was also a dream.

If that's your take, it really doesn't bother me at all. But for most people, I think the premise of Twin Peaks is that supernatural, "impossible" things can happen in what we consider to be the "real world" - so I just don't think the matter of the room key counts as evidence that only now are we surely in a dream.

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 12:17 pm
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I disagree. When you watch Superman, he is flying and have strenght because it is part of this film as real part. It doesn't mean someone is opening basement with 25 years old key from hotel room.

In old TP, we have Bob that do some things. That's why Leland is white and woman in wooden knob. We have superstrenght Nadine, but it is said why. It doesn't mean now she can do anything else. Just her strenght. Don't try to say that anything else in oryginal series is unreal. We have poeple with normaly love problems,  drugs problems, police if fighting criminal. At top of bussiness there is fight for hotel, ghostwood, sawmill. Where there is anything supernatural about these cases ? We have even box left to Catherine. But it is not like someone left this box 100 years ago and it's opened by James keys to motorbike.

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 12:44 pm
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I could replace the door knob on your front door right now and you'd be none the wiser. Is that magic, a dream or something else entirely? How did I end up with the key to your front door? 

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 12:52 pm
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Posted by: Caoimhín Shirey

I could replace the door knob on your front door right now and you'd be none the wiser. Is that magic, a dream or something else entirely? How did I end up with the key to your front door? 

Indeed, and I think that might be a great summation of what this show has tried to do. The Lodge forces didn't make Freddie With The Green Glove go out and find Mr. C so he could pound Bob into oblivion: They brought Mr. C to Freddie, and let him do his thing the the tool he already had. They didn't provide Coop with a special key to open this... portal, or what-have-you. They made it so the lock to the portal would go with the key Coop already had (or did until he dropped it. Maybe that wasn't part of the plan. But it got back to him easily enough in the end.).

In other words, why make your hero go hunting for some mysterious key to a lock when you could just change the lock to go with the key he has.

Not sure how well I'm saying this - I think you might've nailed it better on your own! - but in short, I think you're right.

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 1:04 pm
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I think people are taking this "All A Dream" idea both to literally, and as a crutch to help define what is not explained or understood (much like using "magic" when the science isn't understood)

Yes Coop and Phillip said, "we live inside a dream". . .

But, The Dreamer, The Dream Child, and those that live inside the "dream", are NOT the Tin Man, Scarecrow etc that turn back into the mail man (or whatever they where) when Dorthy wakes up after a tornado hit NE Washington State

This is not to suggest that the last episodes (particularly after Cooper wakes up). is 100% our reality.

. . . but no one is in their bed while their subconscious is categorizing the days events.

 

 

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 1:38 pm
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Posted by: Renata Stachowiak
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Posted by: Renata Stachowiak

How can a room key 315, open a door in basement ?

That was taken care of when the key arrived at the Great Northern.  Ben remarked they'd changed all the room locks years ago.  Obviously, they kept the old mechanical locks to use around the various service and utility areas.  Having spent some time working alongside hotel service and repair guys, it's a very likely scenario.

Are we speaking about rich Horn and his high lvl hotel or it is Africa and third World's countries ?

And it's not same lock ! I just watched old TP, it is not this lock.

 

I'm speaking of any building services department, anywhere in the world.  They never throw anything away, just in case.  A cylinder lock will fit in any cylinder casing, regardless.  All they'd need to do is strip the cylinder out of an old lock they had kicking around the place and suddenly, the old room key fits.  There are several plausible ways it can be the right key for that lock.

It's no more an unlikely set of circumstances than an electrified giant speaking neuron, or people being created out of gold beads and hair.  Beats me how you can accept all that but worry about a key.

 

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 1:43 pm
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